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post #2461 of 2541
Overnight HCI should be enough. Although if you're seeing abnormal behavior on other applications, especially games, it just might not be stable even if it passes HCI.

It might not be corrupt Windows installation but just unstable RAM OC causing problems.

Stabilizing RAM OC first is the key to having a stable system imo.
post #2462 of 2541
It used to run OCCT and atuning fine with unstable RAM.Even if i run the ram at a much lower speed it still wont run those two programs. Even some games don't work. I think it might be a corrupt installation. That's the only thing I can think of.
post #2463 of 2541
@TH558

I had the same issue with Atunning until I enabled CSM in the Bios ( On Boot page in BIOS near the bottom )

Once I did that the error went away.
post #2464 of 2541
2 days before I told I was not abled to put my fan in very great control.
After 2 days, I am very capable of x370 taichi setting, I set monitoring the tcrl temp as I did in asus board also. And successfully pull my aegis gaming ram 3000mhz up to 3200 with no effort. Only tweak voltage to 1.375 and free to go. And run my 1700@3.8ghz in 1.35v with very great temp below 80C.
So far I would say taichi is the best motherboard.
post #2465 of 2541
I've tried slamming multiple things at once for this very reason.

As stated I've run HCI to over 1000% on all the free memory possible, AND i've run memtest86 to make sure that memory used up by system and page file was tested as well. Nothings wrong with the memory I can guarantee that much.

Also: I have not tweaked memory at all except setting the speed to 3066 through XMP. Its rated for 3200 but not stable there so I run it at 3066. It passed HCI at that speed and it passed memtest at default so again I have definitively ruled memory out.


I do have a monitor with speakers built in and sometimes it would default to that. Which is why I removed the HD feature from nvidia.

I think I will follow your advice and do a fresh install (with DDU of course) of nvidia (they have new drivers anyway) without ANYTHING EXCEPT the drivers. cant hurt. Thanks for input.
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post #2466 of 2541
Hello, I need help on figuring out what's going on with PC and hopefully get a direction on where to find a solution. I'm running Ryzen 1700 on stock (AUTO) with 3200ghz FlareX XMP. Right now, the CPU temp reading is 96c and even went to 105c+. It's still running but slow and Ryzen Master reads 0.6ghz clock speeds. The PC restarts when I run multiple apps. But it is slow. I tried google with keywords but nothing relevant is coming up as I probably do not know the keyword to search for. Please help me.

Here are some other background details:
The PC was coming off Sleep when it first booted on its own. Error was 00 that I know is CPU. It fails to boot.
I reset the CMOS and back with the default BIOS. This is where it is now as described above.

I used to run the cpu at 3.7ghz but I set it back to AUTO (Which I assumed was the default since there are no other options than MANUAL) for temp issues when rendering longer minutes. I followed Tech YES City video on youtube.

BIOS version is 3.00.

Thank you very much
post #2467 of 2541
@stanthorus
For me the Tctl temps binding works not pleasant just in terms of acoustics - because of random short temp spikes during activity fans often ramp up and down multiple times and that sounds annoying.
So I suppose that users can still safely go with socket temps (you just need to determine your peak max temps of the socket sensor to bulid the fancurve) and it is preffered way in terms of acoustics.
I can't see any serious evil in going that way. But ofc with Tctl you're safer

As for the other comments glad to hear it. Most of the problems I experienced with this board were just lack of technical knowledge especially in terms of RAM timings and settings

@carinae
Use Hwinfo64 or Ryzen master for reading the correct temps. If you have 1700 then you should have no temp offset, but if you have 1700x then check for Tdie temperature in Hwinfo (which is the real one without +20 degree offset)
For me it sounds like you have too big voltage or bad CPU contact (so your CPU is throttling hard). It simply can't be that hot at 3.7, my temps are 73 max even in most agressive tests at 3900@1.35 volts on noctua d-15
forget all the mess with the p-states and just use basic overclock (e.g. type in 3700 frequency @1.35 volts on the first page or whatever you want), don't use offsets for voltages, just manually type in desired one. This is the only way to be fully sure that you're running on the right voltage and not dangerous 1.5 or something. For some reason people tend to use offset but I don't get the point because it is just as simple to put it manually (e.g. you just type in something like 1.35 instead of 0.22, it's three digits in both cases).

I don't know if that video you mentioned use p-states overclock but for most people OCing without using them is just as safe and much simplier
You need to also apply ryzen power plan in windows.
In fact even if you have hardcore fixed voltage and frequency you're fine because CPU will still drop the current and even the voltage (if you have cool&quiet and c6 enabled) so it will consume almost the same amount of power in idle (~30 watts I guess) and have low temps (my idle temps are about 30 degrees on avg)


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Just a short list what to do -
1) reset the bios
2) input desired frequency and fixed voltage (in your case it will be something like 3700 and 1.35, you can put higher or lower voltage later)
Again, don't be afraid of your CPU running at fixed frequency

3) boot in windows and apply ryzen optimized power plan (if you have none then download x370 am4 chipset driver from AMD)

Run any CPU stresstest (prime95, aida, etc)
If your temps are still skyrocketing (watch the ryzen master or Tdie hwinfo64 temps, not the other sources) - they you just seem to have poor CPU cooler contact
Safe temps are about 75 max. But I'd prefer something in range of 70 for everyday use

p.s. And of course it can be just the bad cooler or bad fan curves. Ensure that your fans are running fine and you connected them to the MB. Check their RPM in hwinfo64 or in bios. What cooler do you use?
Edited by Korrektor - 11/10/17 at 7:43am
post #2468 of 2541
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Originally Posted by SavantStrike View Post

Welcome to Overclock.net!

That's a nice first post you have there. It sounds like you nailed it with your configuration - 4Ghz at 1.266 is a great number for Ryzen, especially with your RAM at 3200. Extra kudos for making sure you're prime stable.

When you find your final top OC, I recommend you try a blend of tests and load up the IMC with prime set to custom and full saturation of the system RAM in the background. If your machine passes that test, then you'll be bulletproof.

I've got one question though - why did you switch from water to air? Were you having trouble with the block?

Rep for solid first post and for your classy attitude towards dealing with a troll.

Thank you I appreciate cheers.gif


There are 2 reasons why I went on air : 1- all components arrived 4/5 days earlier than expected - only missing part was the EK AM4 mounting plate ...my geek's dark side couldn't wait as it was a Friday devil.gif 2- I never had any failure with my wc custom loop, but just in case something happens, having an easy altenative makes me feel better smile.gif (had only one old Intel oem cooler as spare before).


Regarding my 1600X I guess I'm a bit lucky. After playing with Pstates and getting a few crashes I left as much bios settings as possible on auto, disabled CoolNQuite, C6 and core performance boost, both LLC at level 2, 1.31875V CPU voltage and 0.06875 in offset et voilà biggrin.gif

XMP profile 1 and all at stock for the RAM as I'm not an expert in this area - will maybe try to OC a bit the RAM when finished with CPU.

The CPU and offset voltages are not final, I was just happy with the results and decided to stay like this for the last week. Maybe I could lower the CPU voltage and decrease the offset to gain a bit more efficiency.

SOC in HWinfo64 is reported at 1.106V so I guess that's one of the settings I left on auto.
post #2469 of 2541
Hi all, assembled a taichi (bios 3.2) and a 1700 last night along with 16gb lot of flare x 3200mhz


Not sure where to go from..

Windows runs stable with xmp settings but if I shutdown and start the PC it takes a few attempts, then boots with failsafe values (2400mhz not 3200mhz), I've tried dropping the memory speed down to 3066 and 2933 without luck (same boot issues).

Second one I can get it running at 3.8ghz at 1.30v using ryzen master but if I set the CPU speed and voltage (the setting directly below) and boot it runs without issue but still runs at 3.2ghz (tested this with ram set to auto).

Sometimes windows will report 1.6 GHz or there abouts after tweaking these.

Some footage I have seen of people overclocking this board show people setting the voltage value under the CPU speed and others lower on the oc tweaker page for vcore.

Any ideas? I don't want to push for 4ghz but 3.9 with 3200mhz memory would be great.

Thank you
Edited by barbz127 - 11/10/17 at 1:24pm
post #2470 of 2541
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Originally Posted by barbz127 View Post

Hi all, assembled a taichi (bios 3.2) and a 1700 last night along with 16gb lot of flare x 3200mhz


Not sure where to go from..

Windows runs stable with xmp settings but if I shutdown and start the PC it takes a few attempts, then boots with failsafe values (2400mhz not 3200mhz), I've tried dropping the memory speed down to 3066 and 2933 without luck (same boot issues).

Attempts may mean memory training. Were you running the system with default settings when failsafe values were automatically applied? If I'm not making a mistake, values are reverted to default when oc fails.

Anyway, load optimized defaults, save and exit, enter the bios again and, for FlareX, you may use these settings (voltage: 1.35):


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Originally Posted by barbz127 View Post


Second one I can get it running at 3.8ghz at 1.30v using ryzen master but if I set the CPU speed and voltage (the setting directly below) and boot it runs without issue but still runs at 3.2ghz (tested this with ram set to auto).

Sometimes windows will report 1.6 GHz or there abouts after tweaking these.

Some footage I have seen of people overclocking this board show people setting the voltage value under the CPU speed and others lower on the oc tweaker page for vcore.

Any ideas? I don't want to push for 4ghz but 3.9 with 3200mhz memory would be great.

Thank you

Ryzen Master may apply certain oc settings but that doesn't mean it's stable. If, @default and using the indicated settings for RAM, your system is working as expected, you may try increase cpu clock/voltage. I suggest starting by watching this video to get used to UEFI options:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uh82U6ZihM

After that you can follow any tutorial found @YT.
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