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Does anyone else have Dominator Platinums running at 2933 or above? I can't get my 3000 kit to run past 2666 :/
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Taichi is available at Newegg now :

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757

Just got one smile.gif

Guys any recommendation for least expensive Ram? I am OK running at 2933.
How is https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231929

I'm running Geil Evo X 3000. Set to XMP 2993, no hassle.
I think I've seen people being able to get the 3200 version running on 3200. Slightly cheaper than G Skills, but tall though to accommodate RGB Lighting.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820158127&cm_re=geil_evo_x-_-20-158-127-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820158130&cm_re=geil_evo_x-_-20-158-130-_-Product

I got mine a while ago for $99 bucks. Should've got the 3200 version that went on sale for $109 that time. Maybe around Dec last year.
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Is there a definitive 3200 kit for this board or can I generally get whatever?

I just picked up the Taichi and a 1700x

Thanks!
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I've been reading on this for at least the past 8 hours. This board, newegg, reddit, and the challenge of course is that firmware needs to catch up. I'm not educated enough yet to use the correct verbiage, but I think I understand the basic concepts. Also, I snagged a Taichi off Newegg the other day by sheer luck, hence why I started researching.

Some Facts:

- Higher memory frequency significantly improves Ryzen performance in many games because it affects the speed at which Ryzen can communicate between the two halves of the CPU. Many benchmarks have been done that prove this with some showing 10-15% improvement.

- It's not just the memory frequency, but also the CAS latency that improves performance as well

- Samsung-B chips seem to be able to run stable at higher frequencies. A list that has been posted on Reddit can be found here.

-AsRock has posted and continues to update supported memory on the Taichi. It appears that many of the memory part numbers they provide are not complete or are not the SKU used for ordering as I'm having challenges locating certain compatible parts anywhere.

- Some users seems to be reporting successful runs at advertised frequencies while others on the same memory do not. This leads me to believe there may also be something else than affects the ability to run at advertised memory speeds such as how stable the CPU overclock is, motherboard, etc.


Theory:

- G.Skill Tridentz CAS 14 / seem to be Samsung-B chips and as such, this memory should have a higher chance of operating at advertised frequencies.

- G.Skill Flare X has multiple reports of successful runs on advertised timings/speed.

So that's what I've found out so far. I've never spent more than $90 on RAM, so this is a little painful to my wallet. I'm stuck between the FlareX 3200 and TridentZ RGB 3200 (just $25 more for RGB woohoo). My practical side might win out on me ditching the RGB. We shall see.rolleyes.gif
Edited by DMFD-Minister - 4/13/17 at 3:49pm
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Got the gskill flares running @ 3200 cl14 , i didn't test to much but with bios 2.0 only one click to xmp and system boots into windows. The next days not @ home when i'm back end next week i can report.
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I'm a bit confused and hope you'll can give me some awnsers.

I'm running an 1700x @ 3.9 at stock vcore voltage (1.35) through PStates on air cooling on the X370 Taichi. The computer will change it's speed according to the workload and thereby I can have a quieter computer when doing non-intensive workloads. So far exactly what I want!
The thing is that Windows will report warnings about hardware corrections on one or multiple cores with a stock vcore voltage of 1.35 running 3900 Mhz for extended periods. Changing the VCore to something greater than 3.5 makes the warnings disappear like snow before the sun.

I figured out is that if you deviate from the default VID "20" value in one PState. (As an example change the FID to 9C (3900mhz) and VID to 1C (1.375) of PState0) the computer will not run in PState0. So you need to change the VID for all the Pstates if you want to run with a higher voltage. Here comes the 'CPU VCore Voltage' settings in the OC Tweaker screen of the bios. At-least, I think?
I also want to run the VCore in offset mode. Less heat, tear and unnecessary power usage when I don't need the performance of Ryzen.
My big question is what do I need to put there to get the VCore voltage to a maximum of 1.375 volts?
If you're putting all the VIDs on all the P States to the same value, then you're essentially overclocking your CPU in the same way of someone just entering a voltage in "Fixed Mode." The only difference is that you get to customize what frequencies your P States function at. I feel like the point of having access to P States, and the purpose of buying a more expensive motherboard, is the potential to customize your P States are the most efficient voltage settings for its corresponding frequency for heat management/longevity. It's been a very aggravating process.
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3200 C14 ram is highly likely to be Samsung B die, 3200 C16 is probably SK Hynix. The kits I've seen that have had the most success are G.Skill (Trident, tempest, their rgb whatevers, flare x) 2x8gb 3200 c14 kits.
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That is probably not a B-Die.

- Samsung-B chips seem to be able to run stable at higher frequencies. A list that has been posted on Reddit can be found here.
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I have a kit of this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232485&cm_re=G.SKILL_TridentZ_RGB_Series-_-20-232-485-_-Product

Running 2.0 BIOS with a 1700

I am able to warm boot 2933 with 18-17-17-38 timings when i have a 3.8ghz OC on the CPU.

Otherwise coldboot with 2133 only.

Without a CPU OC i can cold boot 2933 with the same timings. Any idea why this is?
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