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This...every bit of this, because i didn't do it years ago and should have.

Uh. I bought at 1.86 and sold at 3.something. I feel so god damn dumb right now. Sure, I made a profit but right now I could buy a new house and a car. mad.gif

And of course, pay a 22% fee to my country. Which I see as dumb but oh well.
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AMD just released a chip that is not only equal but in many cases better than Intel's 1000 USD chip at half the price (1800X) or even lower (1700) and you are saying that they aren't competing with Intel? LOL!

The 1080's, Ti's and Titan Black Xp Ti's exist to milk people with more money than they know what to do with and as advertising. There are hordes of people who think that just because nVidia have the fastest GPU their 10 year old GT210 that can barely render their desktop is automatically better than anything AMD have. Neither AMD, Intel nor nVidia really care about the high end consumer market, their money is made in the sub 200 USD market where low margins are offset by the sheer volume of chips they sell and in the server market where margins are absolutely enormous and astronomical.

I agree, and thats actually where AMD excels and dominates in the GPU market.

Which is why I'm currently sitting on some cash waiting for the RX 500 series to be released, and VEGA's release, so we can see how well they actually preform.

I can at present easily afford a pair of $200 video cards, or a single $400 video card...

That is where AMD's market share will start to climb back up, when the RX 580 is released (presumably in the $200 range), and every one goes to buy that instead of nVidia because, why?

Because FreeSync!

How many of us have a Freesync monitor on our desk waiting for AMD's next video card?
     
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Personaly i think investors will like this stock if next outlook will look promising.
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AMD just released a chip that is not only equal but in many cases better than Intel's 1000 USD chip at half the price (1800X) or even lower (1700) and you are saying that they aren't competing with Intel? LOL!

The 1080's, Ti's and Titan Black Xp Ti's exist to milk people with more money than they know what to do with and as advertising. There are hordes of people who think that just because nVidia have the fastest GPU their 10 year old GT210 that can barely render their desktop is automatically better than anything AMD have. Neither AMD, Intel nor nVidia really care about the high end consumer market, their money is made in the sub 200 USD market where low margins are offset by the sheer volume of chips they sell and in the server market where margins are absolutely enormous and astronomical.

I agree, and thats actually where AMD excels and dominates in the GPU market.

Which is why I'm currently sitting on some cash waiting for the RX 500 series to be released, and VEGA's release, so we can see how well they actually preform.

I can at present easily afford a pair of $200 video cards, or a single $400 video card...

That is where AMD's market share will start to climb back up, when the RX 580 is released (presumably in the $200 range), and every one goes to buy that instead of nVidia because, why?

Because FreeSync!

How many of us have a Freesync monitor on our desk waiting for AMD's next video card?

Far, far more than people have G-Sync screens.

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Goldmans LOL, anyone who pays attention to the stock market knows Goldmans tries and manipulate the stock market.  Most likely have a large client who's trying to short.

Goldmans are the same fools that were saying TSLA was worth $190 last month.  Picked up a ton of calls today, thanks Goldmans!

The points that Goldmans did make about TSLA wasn't wrong, nor was it illogical.
I purchased TSLA way back in the day and still holding on, but that company really isn't following the rules of ANY automotive stock. It swings to the left or to the right HEAVILY depending on what Elon ate that morning (Space X seems to influence TSLA greatly).
I think the Fool said it the best that you can't look at TSLA as a automotive company but a tech like Apple.
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In what way is he correct?
AMD so far had its stock rise immensely over promises alone.
When they announce Polaris, vega, ryzen, their stock rose over celebrations of "AMD finally have an answer!". But so far, it hadn't deliver so much.
Polaris isn't beating Nvidia sales, vega is coming late to the party, ryzen while nice, will only show real results in a year or so and isn't going to make a big dent into Intel sales at the moment.
Their stock price went up expecting everything to be different. So expecting a reduce in stock price and a warning, is very expected to come at some point.

The claim that they are thieves etc, is absurd.
Playing the market is their speciality. That is why your money isn't being reduced to nothing because of inflations of time, why you can invest your money, and where new companies get funds to develop new things.

Why absurd? As a consumer that actually looks at the product AMD released in terms of competing in the market. Add on the fact the rest of that line up is rolling out... upcoming moves in the GPU and Server market.

My personal view of this "warning" at this time... is simply to get people to sell and drive the price down. So that certain other parties can buy the stock at a reduced price and thus make a larger profit when the actual natural peak occurs. Market manipulation is as far as I know... illegal. Its also something that hasn't been subtle over at least the last 10 years... to the point of being so glaringly obvious at times... that the only surprise is that more of these "people" aren't in prison currently.
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Market Manipulation IS the stock market. It was designed that way and has never operated in any other manner.
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if it was the other way around you would say the same thing? i doubt it. reading your name i know whats coming in your post.

What?
If Nvidia stock price fell because of their GPUs aren't selling well or aren't living up to their potential?
Sure, i will also write the same.
But it's not the situation now isn't it?

Nvidia stocks rise and fall constantly but it is not because of their product not delivering the expected, but because of claims they don't have much place to grow. Their SoC isn't so selling as much as AMD for the consoles, desktop market isn't growing that much etc.
That is a whole different story.

I'm not defending Nvidia. I think their prices are way too high. But I have the brain to understand that they can do whatever they want because they have no competition. And the tools they give the developers are to sale more GPUs, not act like little kids with about it.
I do not respect a company which PR tactics is acting as if someone took their favorite toy away and play the "underdog" card instead of actually competing head to head.

The bolded part is the funniest statement I've read today.


One month ago: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4053640-goldman-sachs-snaps-613-million-worth-amd-stock
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9%, huh? isnt that the same as the fps you gain by using a 7700k over ryzen
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Bought at <$2 a year ago, sold at $15. I doubt AMD will go any higher until they can break into the server market. The problem there is that I believe Dell and EMC is under exclusive contract with Intel for all CPUs.

I can officially, unofficially confirm this. All we got is Intel frown.gif
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