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You only need dust filters on intake vents. If you are using the top venting for intake don't use the Evolv ATX case.

If you try to use both front intake and top intake you will probably have cooling issue. Too many intake fans and not enough exhaust vent area .. end result will be less intake airflow than is usually needed simply because there is not enough exhaust vent area .. exhaust vent area is simple too small.

You will probably be better served with Enthoo Luxe or Enthoo Pro. The are a little bigger case. I prefer the Luxe, but some prefer the Pro. Both use same chassis.

I see. So regardless of air cooling or watercooling, generally the front/bottom intake and top/rear exhaust thinking holds true?

I'm pretty much sold on the Evolv ATX and just want ti iron out the kinks.
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If you are doing a 240mm on the top, the difference is actually pretty minimal. When you are trying to move more air the difference becomes more apparent.

Fractal cases are great. I've had several and been very happy with them. BUT....their front intakes are far more restrictive than the Evolv ATX (why does no one ever talk about that tongue.gif ). The Define S is the only one of their line that is truly liquid cooling friendly, and even at that, I don't love the way the top rads mount.

I am a big proponent of front/bottom intake, top/rear exhaust. Clear direction of airflow.

What do you think is a good setup for rad and fans for the Evolv ATX in my situation? If you remember from the Swiftech thread, I'm using an H220-X that I'll be expanding with a GPU waterblock on my upcoming 1080Ti very soon. The 2600K is OC'd to 4.5GHz and I always OC GPU's too. Do I mount the H220X in the top or front? And how big of a rad should I add(and where do I mount it) to improve my temps significantly?

Oh so you can mount a top rad in the Define S? Based on its looks, I thought there isn't a way to do that.

So if a rad is in the top and you still setup fans to it as exhaust, won't that affect temps negatively because of warmer air passing through the rad?
post #22 of 41
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I see. So regardless of air cooling or watercooling, generally the front/bottom intake and top/rear exhaust thinking holds true?

I'm pretty much sold on the Evolv ATX and just want ti iron out the kinks.
What do you think is a good setup for rad and fans for the Evolv ATX in my situation? If you remember from the Swiftech thread, I'm using an H220-X that I'll be expanding with a GPU waterblock on my upcoming 1080Ti very soon. The 2600K is OC'd to 4.5GHz and I always OC GPU's too. Do I mount the H220X in the top or front? And how big of a rad should I add(and where do I mount it) to improve my temps significantly?

Oh so you can mount a top rad in the Define S? Based on its looks, I thought there isn't a way to do that.

So if a rad is in the top and you still setup fans to it as exhaust, won't that affect temps negatively because of warmer air passing through the rad?

H220 in the front (res at the bottom), Hardware Labs 360 GTS up top, rear fan as intake. Mild positive pressure, plenty of rad, no clearance issues, visually balanced.

I'm also an Evolv owner (water cooled) and the "problems" with this case are... wait for it... overstated. I wouldn't recommend it for an x99 SLI Titan build but other than that there is no issue. I would say it isn't great for lots of 3.5 drivers and water cooling... but then again no mid tower is.

If you do what was suggested in this thread, your water temps shouldn't hit above ~35c under load, except for a hot day.
    
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post #23 of 41
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H220 in the front (res at the bottom), Hardware Labs 360 GTS up top, rear fan as intake. Mild positive pressure, plenty of rad, no clearance issues, visually balanced.

I'm also an Evolv owner (water cooled) and the "problems" with this case are... wait for it... overstated. I wouldn't recommend it for an x99 SLI Titan build but other than that there is no issue. I would say it isn't great for lots of 3.5 drivers and water cooling... but then again no mid tower is.

If you do what was suggested in this thread, your water temps shouldn't hit above ~35c under load, except for a hot day.

Why not the GTX though? No need to put bottom fans I take?

Why don't you recommend the Evolv for an x99 SLI Titan setup?
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Why not the GTX though? No need to put bottom fans I take?

Why don't you recommend the Evolv for an x99 SLI Titan setup?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133283

I'm using that one right now, It was sortof weird to build at first but I love it now.
Very unique looking case and you can use it as a test bench or with its feet, I use it as a test bench so this was perfect
post #25 of 41
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133283

I'm using that one right now, It was sortof weird to build at first but I love it now.
Very unique looking case and you can use it as a test bench or with its feet, I use it as a test bench so this was perfect

I don't know, I can't have a case that's open. Dust is prevalent in my place. Thanks though.
post #26 of 41
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@doyll

Do you think the clearance that the Evolv ATX's feet presents is enough for proper bottom airflow?
post #27 of 41
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I don't know, I can't have a case that's open. Dust is prevalent in my place. Thanks though.

Dust is becoming a problem , my fans were frosted with it after 3 months.
post #28 of 41
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@doyll

Do you think the clearance that the Evolv ATX's feet presents is enough for proper bottom airflow?
Only bottom intake is to PSU .. and PSUs usually need minimal airflow so not an issue.
post #29 of 41
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Only bottom intake is to PSU .. and PSUs usually need minimal airflow so not an issue.

Ok. For the rear fan,intake or exhaustif there's 240/360mm rad exhaust on top?
post #30 of 41
You need to start thinking and using the knowledge we are giving you. I will help you forever, but helping means you have to think and use the information given. Case airflow explained in this link.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/0_20#post_22319249
Edited by doyll - 4/8/17 at 4:17am
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