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Need help, MSI B350M Mortar or Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3

post #1 of 13
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Hey guys Im planning to build an pc using ryzen but I need help choosing a motherboard for it.

Ive already made up my mind to use ryzen 1700x and a matx motheboard. Problem is im not sure whether to get A Gigabyte AB350M gaming 3 vs MSI B350M mortar .

Im looking for comparisons between the two in terms of overclocking capability (different vram cooling/quality), IO options, company specific features , generally anything that may make one option better than the other.

Thanks.
Edited by seanwee - 4/7/17 at 11:06pm
post #2 of 13
The biggest advantage the Gigabyte B350M Gaming 3 has is USB 3.1 gen 2 , with dual BIOs, & more USB ports as secondary ones. The MSI has a better audio solution, more color options (with a less brown PCB), steel PCie slot bracing , and known DDR4-3200MHz support with many memory kits.

The MSI VRM solution is slightly better but both are roughly equal , with both PWM controllers having similar granularity & overvolt /overcurrent protection, 0.5% accuracy , and thermal monitoring.

Gigabyte has 4c10n high side, two 4c06n low side per phase http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NTMFS4C06N-D.PDF
MSI has PK616BA high side , two PK632BA low side per phase http://www.unikc.com.cn/UploadFile/products/2016628133257-PK632BA_REV1.2_20160623.pdf
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What about fan headers? I read on gigabyte's site that it has 3 fan headers but msi provides no information about the number of fan headers. I will be using a corsair h80i v2 so a pump header would be good.
post #4 of 13
- 1 x 4-pin CPU fan connector
- 3 x 4-pin system fan connectors
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350M-MORTAR.html#productSpecification-section


Gigabyte's AB350M Gaming 3:

1 x CPU fan header
2 x system fan headers
Edited by AlphaC - 4/8/17 at 11:55am
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post #5 of 13
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Didnt see that tongue.gif

Thanks !

Now i can just use a PWM spliter for the two cpu fans. What about the water pump ? Is it OK to just set it to max speed all the time?

Also does the Gigabyte mobo have one or two usb 3.1 gen2 ? Because if its just one then i'll just get a usb 3.1 gen 2 pcie card down the road.
post #6 of 13
"Fast 2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 with USB Type-A" per the datasheet

http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-10#kf

& specsheet says 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-A ports (red) on the back panel

You can set the pump at max speed but it will be louder for no reason at idle.

P.S. Per Corsair H80i V2 installation you plug the pump into CPU_FAN and then the two fans plug into the fan splitter that comes out of the block. If you want to use Corsair link you plug in the cable into an internal USB header.
Edited by AlphaC - 4/8/17 at 9:56pm
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post #7 of 13
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Thanks , didnt know that .
post #8 of 13
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Would the much larger heatsink on the msi be useful when overclocking?

I saw on msi's site saying that they have double esd protection on their motherboards and based on their pictures the gigabyte only has single or semi-esd protection. Do they really matter or is it just marketing?.
post #9 of 13
I can tell you now, regardless of USB ports etc, I have both boards, and out of the 2, the Gigabyte is going back, given me nothing but trouble and still no bios updates, the F3c beta bios update that Gigabyte gave me, either buggered my ram or the board, lost the option for XMP profiles in the bios, even back flashing didnt fix, RMA'd the ram, and got that replaced, the motherboard is going back too, ive had enough of it.

As for the MSI, way more features in the bios compared to the Gigabyte board, load line calibration for instance is just one of them, debug LED's, im over the moon with this board, they would have to come out with something pretty mind blowing for me to get rid of this board, im still testing on it at the moment, but so far I have my R7 1700 upto 3.9ghz, 1.36v, and im running a new replacement set of G.skill Trident Z RGB 3200mhz ram on it at the moment at 2933mhz, not shot for the full 3200mhz yet, but it will come during testing, other system specs are 3 x samsung evo 250gb 840's in RAID0, Creative Sounblaster Z modified, Sapphire RX480 Boost+ 8gb GFX Card, 1000w Ledtek Platinum PSU, and a custom water loop.
Edited by Seaie280672 - 4/11/17 at 2:43pm
post #10 of 13
How do you overclock B350M Mortar in UEFI? just can figure it out, if I turn on the game boost, it will do 3.5Ghz and a fixed max voltage of 1.450v doh.gif other then that nothing can be changed. I have version 1.1, Ryzen 1700.
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