Originally Posted by Lucky Strike
kind of undertaking it but, Im on the exact same spot here...
I was sure about the gaming 3, mainly because the dual bios, Im really considering the msi now...
but it seems that "the comunity" of msi is not as large as for the 350m G3...
Do you know if there is forum's topic dedicated for the msi?
It should be obvious but probably deserves stating anyway: if the GB 350m G3 is a larger community then there are a lot more voices to express frustration during the frustrating time during any new tech roll-out shaking out BIOS and processor microcode updates.
That said: the AB350M Gaming 3 is up to BIOS F5 now, AGESA 1006 fully implemented. Lots more people getting supported memory to work and even unsupported memory to work better. Now that I understand how the CPU VCore reading works I'm able to settle on 3.85Gig, 24/7 overclock at 1.36volts under load (Prime95 small FFT's). Realistically, that's about the best anyone could expect to do with an 8core/16thread Ryzen on a 4 phase VRM.
I'm not trying to say all is peaches and cream here: the VCore measurement point (at the VRM output) is crazy, it doesn't have LLC (and could use it, I think) and the location of the second PCIe x 16/4 slot is bad cause you can't use it to cross-fire unless you put it in an ATX case and then...what's the point of mATX again??
Dunno what problems MSI is experiencing (they doubtless are): find out what BIOS rev they're on, if AGESA 1006 is rolled in FULLY with all the memory timings AMD opened up exposed for you to fiddle with. I seriously doubt anybody's mATX voltage phase control is any better than Gigabytes for their mATX boards, just different so there will be haters either way. And whichever you go with ignore the motherboard's 'approved' memory list but check AMD's and buy from it for maximum compatibility.
And lastly: just like the AB350M Gaming 3 this B350M Mortar is not a 'top-tier' board for MSI and will probably be equally low in getting attention from their development team. I think this has been a common problem across all the mATX boards: the engineering team pays attention first to their expensive X370 monsters like the CH6, Taichi, Aorus K7, etc. Then translates what they learn to the lower tier premiums before, finally, to the lowly little mATX boards that honestly have so very little overclocking headroom anyway.Edited by buddywh - Yesterday at 4:09 pm