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I over hauled my AMD FX Rig ( I was tired of dealing with gigabyte board issues, after going thru two MSI boards. ) This is now my 4th motherboard, I was excited for the features it had. 1. (TWO) PCI-Ex16 2.0 slots that were the correct space appart for my two R9 390s to fix comfortably. ( The previous gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 R5 I was using had both PCI-Ex16 2.0 slot right next to each other, so unless your GFX card had a blower fan in the rear, the cards would over heat. So, had to run one on the PCI-E 8x slot. That was annoying. ) 2. M.2 @ PCI-Ex4 2.0 ( Yes, I was able to get 1500MB/s read and write ). 3. Finally a motherboard that hopefully would not have VRMs burn out on me.


Okay, that said, once I had everything up and running issues started almost immediately. 1st, I could install windows 10 64bit on to the M.2 drive, but once I rebooted, it was as if the drive never existed, tried two drives. Thru using a usb drive with a UFEI boot driver for the M.2 drive, I could make it in to windows. However, once in windows drivers started to install and then I would fall in to a rebooting loop of the BSOD.

CAUSES, through the logs ( USB3.x drivers, GFX card drivers, M.2 drivers ) all which take over PCI-E lanes. All drivers, used were latest WHQL for the graphics cards, the M.2, and USB 3.x for Windows 10 64bit. I could run the machine by basically choosing one of the 3 above. Ive used a standard ssd, and dissabled the M.2 BUT isssue still occured when running the 2 R9 390's in 16x each, and then installing the USB 3.X drivers, the system would BSOD again. Google, searching, i've read similiar issues.

Troubleshooting so far, completely Benched rig, default all Bios options, read thru the manual probably 7x by now. Only thing I can think of now is trying to install windows 7 on it, and or rolling back the BIOS to the first release.

Anyways I wanted to have an exciting article to share so while I was rebuilding it (not know it would become a head ache I took some eye candy photos!) wink.gif

Tear down photos (not in an order):

Clean those dusty parts!

Adding to the collection of failed 990FX moBos


Using electrical contact cleaner on connections



Cable management is going to have a complete overhaul!




After rebluid, it looks nice. =]








I'm at a loss though here, I believe the 990FX chip with an AM3+ was never intended to run, M.2, Xfire, and USB 3.X all at once.
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Something just came to mind...UEFI drivers.
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Originally Posted by Mckayman View Post

Something just came to mind...UEFI drivers.

Good possibility - In fact a very good possibility. rolleyes.gif

The system itself is perfectly capable of running Win 10 itself, I have it installed on my setup that's more or less identical to yours right down to the board model and it does fine. However you did mention you have it running a pair of GPU's and the M.2 module together, that could be the main culprit and yes USB 3 has issues with AM3+ at times.

Mine however is only running a single GPU instead of a crossfired setup and maybe that's the root of the issues you're having - You do lose a PCI-E lane running a M.2 module.

If wanting to run it with Win 7 you'll have to have the M.2 driver ready to load since Win 7 doesn't have a driver for it, you'd have to do that during setup or just make a Vlite OS copy with the needed drivers added to the OS once you make it.
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Good news! Got the system running, a complete reflash of the current uefi bios version, with all settings restored to default. The system booted up and installed win10x64 on the m.2, in a few mins...updated to version 1703. Installed Amds 17.2.1 driver and crossfire now is running fine. Read a few reviews on Amazon, other owners commented on leaving the USB 3.x drivers alone, and NOT installing the ASUS ones ( Uefi issues caused bsod ) So far everything is good. Have all 32gb of ram running at cas9 timings 9-9-9-24, with the fx8370 set at 21.5x multiplier. Both r9 390s are set at 1075mhz. The m.2 drive I am using is a Samsung 960evo 500gb, I have samsungs nmve driver installed, with just a simple bench mark I'm getting 1600MB read, and 1200MBs write. The m.2 slot is pci e x4 2.0 so Max bandwidth would be 20Gb/s so not complaining here. Haven't tweaked much of anything else, once I finish installing aida64 and 3dmark I can see how the system is really holding up. thumb.gif
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So, couple of weeks in with the new Sabortooth 990FX R3.0, M.2 Drive I am using is 500GB 960 EVO Read 1600MBs Write 1200MBs. So far system has held up quite well. I must say on 3dmark, I am now able to pass all stress tests, *both R9 390s Set to 1075mhz, I was not able to do this before with the MSIs and Gigabyte boards. So far it seems all the issues I was having with the gigabyte board (rapid turn off and turn on with cold boot, usb port randomly quit working, GPUs crashing at slight overclock) This motherboard is rock solid stable, it was well worth the over hall. thumb.gif
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