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post #1 of 10
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Hi guys, I'm going to order my new pc in a couple of weeks and I'm trying to find the "right / best" piece for everything.

After 1 month of review ecc I decided to take an i7-7700k with the hope of winning the silicon lottery. My target is to achieve 5ghz > in daily use without raping the CPU.

Looking around for the best motherboard I can't really find the "right / best" one...

For now I checked:

  • ASROCK Z280 Professional Gaming i7

  • Asus Maximus IX Formula

  • Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 8 (gaming 9 is tooooo expensive...)


My questions are:

  • What is the best motherboard overall for features, build quality and component's quality?

  • They can all reach 5ghz > CPU clock if the CPU is a lucky one and with a good cooler (I'll go custom water cooling).

  • Motherboard preistalled water cooling is "necessary" for high end overclock or it's a sort of overkill / glamour thing?




Thank you really really much for all the help.
post #2 of 10
I would recommend to look at ASRock Z270 Taichi. I considered Z270, X99 and X370 and for all three the ASRock Taichi ultimately won it.

It really seems the Taichi was designed by people who really thought about component placement and quality. All Taichi boards get positive reviews. They are cheap as they skip unnecessary things without sacrificing quality. Their BIOS has good overclocking support.

Notice how some motherboard makers:
  • put PCIE x1 below slots intended for GPUs, thus making them unusable. It's better to have them above GPU slot.
  • include U.2 although you can't buy almost any U.2 drives
  • use bad M.2 placements just below GPU slots and GPU fans causing them to heat up and throttle
  • add killer LAN/wifi but there are lot of people complaining about software/driver quality. Better avoid it.

For me it was ASRock Z270 Taichi > MSI® Z270 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM > Asus Maximus IX Formula as I wanted lot of M.2 and have good slot placement. They all seem to be similar in performance. I'm not sure where to put Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 9 since it does meet my M.2 count requirement, but has worse placement than Asus, but thanks to PEX8747 allow to potentially combine 2x GPUs with 2x other peripheral PCIE x8 cards (but at the cost of sharing bandwidth with GPUs).
post #3 of 10
Another vote for ASRock Taichi, my x99 Taichi board is trouble-free and well thought out, probably the z270 board is good too.
 
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post #4 of 10
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Wooo I didn't know the ASRock Z270 Taichi was so good. But it can handle high end OC? I read about a lot of mobo that have a very low power limiter that stop the OC at 4,7ghz. Like the Asrock Gaming K6.

Did you do OC on the Taichi?
post #5 of 10
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Wooo I didn't know the ASRock Z270 Taichi was so good. But it can handle high end OC? I read about a lot of mobo that have a very low power limiter that stop the OC at 4,7ghz. Like the Asrock Gaming K6.

Did you do OC on the Taichi?

Not much, I'm waiting till I have the space to dual-boot Windows on it rather than use a PCIe passthrough VM with Linux, just so I can use decent stress tests for a manual overclock. I did an auto-preset-overclock, only to 4GHz because I don't trust voltage from non-manual overclocks. I don't plan on going above 4.7GHz anyway, I kind of want this system to last... 4.5GHz would be nice though, it did accept the settings for that fine if that's what you're asking, but it wasn't stable for a kernel compile in Linux as a test, so I probably was messing up my settings some. (I never overclocked Haswell-E before, and didn't have a guide.)

I should add mine is the x99 Taichi, I can't vouch for the z270 Taichi. Obviously 4.5GHz would be pretty pitiful if it was z270, but it isn't. smile.gif
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post #6 of 10
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Yea there are a lot of differences between x99 and z270 chip. I saw that a lot of people go OC with the new asus IX formula and with the old asrock Z170 professional, but I think it's too early to have a full motherboards' reviews coverage frown.gif

I'm not one that think "high price = better" but, marketing apart, there must be a reason for moboes' tiers and prices.
post #7 of 10
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Yea there are a lot of differences between x99 and z270 chip. I saw that a lot of people go OC with the new asus and with the old asrock professional, but I think it's too early to have a full motherboards' reviews coverage frown.gif

I'm not one that think "high price = better" but, marketing apart, there must be a reason for moboes' tiers and prices.

My x99 Taichi has very good reviews, unlike most x99 boards, apparently ASRock, despite their repuation as a budget OEM, got their BIOS and a lot of other things right with this board whereas others did not. I hear good things about the x370 Taichi also, I'd be surprised if the z270 one is not at least decent. The Taichi ones have various features "you don't need" not included, but everything else tends to be well thought out. At least, that's what their marketing material claims, it's true with the x99 board at least though in my experience.
 
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post #8 of 10
Msi z270 gaming m7 is the best board for the price in my opinion.
post #9 of 10
If you go for the Z270 Fatal1ty, make sure you get the K6, more VRMs compared to K4. wink.gif
post #10 of 10
When you choose your motherboard look at http://www.userbenchmark.com to check what RAM are people using with it, so that you can buy something that works well.

When you look at http://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Asrock-Z270-Taichi/48849 it's much less popular than Asus Z270 Maximus IX formula, but lot of people who buy it also buy G.SKILL memory for OC. For other makers this will be mostly hidden as they have many ordinary users. But few ordinary users buy Taichi, it seems mostly overclockers. You will find that the X99 and X370 version has also many G.SKILL memory users.
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