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Price of the PC in title is different from the one mentioned in quotes.
Edited by sepiashimmer - 4/9/17 at 6:06pm
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Funny that people argue that an older machine is getting raped by a newer one. Buy a new Mac Pro today and what will it cost? Still more than the brand new Ryzen build lol.
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Apple is a fashion statement for the most part. Those professionals who spend the money on a Pro are likely using Apple's ecosystem which can't be duplicated on Windows. The only Apple PC I personally have any interest in is the iMac 27" 5K simply because it looks so sweet, not because its any match for a Windows system i could build for myself. Nothing wrong with that at all, you just have to decide what is important to you. Ryzen is amazing value, no argument there.
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The mac pro is old. 2013 old. Not many are buying it today compared to in 2013-2014 anyway. The ones who bought it in 2013 are still using it and it is still running great, and most likely don't see a reason to replace it with a 1500$ PC.
If you bought one in 2013, you got almost 4 years of consistent high performance top end workstation, so I see no problem with that.

Besides, its not a windows obligatory commend, which makes it all worth it tongue.gif
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Funny that people argue that an older machine is getting raped by a newer one. Buy a new Mac Pro today and what will it cost? Still more than the brand new Ryzen build lol.

Today you don't have a reason to buy a mac pro. You can get a iMac 27 which will perform very closely plus you get a great screen.
But if you bought one when it came out, yes, it is slower, but it is still great. And most likely the owners are waiting for a new version to come out, not a new PC.
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The mac pro is old. 2013 old. Not many are buying it today compared to in 2013-2014 anyway. The ones who bought it in 2013 are still using it and it is still running great, and most likely don't see a reason to replace it with a 1500$ PC.
If you bought one in 2013, you got almost 4 years of consistent high performance top end workstation, so I see no problem with that.

Besides, its not a windows obligatory commend, which makes it all worth it tongue.gif
Today you don't have a reason to buy a mac pro. You can get a iMac 27 which will perform very closely plus you get a great screen.
But if you bought one when it came out, yes, it is slower, but it is still great. And most likely the owners are waiting for a new version to come out, not a new PC.

Arent they being sold right now buy Apple?

http://www.apple.com/ca/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro
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Arent they being sold right now buy Apple?

http://www.apple.com/ca/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro

I'm not saying the aren't.
Apple also sold the old MacBook pro for several years ever after replacing it with the retina version.

As I said, apple selling it doesn't mean people are actually buying it.
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I just wanted to add, that I used my mac pro similar spec as their review to do the same test.
8 core, 64GB, 2xD700, 1TB PCIE (and no, I did not buy it at full price, are you nuts?).
I got 11s (second run 10.9s) benchmark results. I have no idea how they got 15s. So I call BS on their results.
Either way, the ryzen is a great value for creative work, I do agree on that. If apple could put that in the next mac pro, would be amazing (plus a hell of a lot less pricy, depends on the server version price).




Tweaking the settings, I can get to 10.2s.



That means the ryzen is 1.3x faster, not 2x faster (vs the OCed results).
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I just wanted to add, that I used my mac pro similar spec as their review to do the same test.
8 core, 64GB, 2xD700, 1TB PCIE (and no, I did not buy it at full price, are you nuts?).
I got 11s (second run 10.9s) benchmark results. I have no idea how they got 15s. So I call BS on their results.
Either way, the ryzen is a great value for creative work, I do agree on that. If apple could put that in the next mac pro, would be amazing (plus a hell of a lot less pricy, depends on the server version price).




Tweaking the settings, I can get to 10.2s.



That means the ryzen is 1.3x faster, not 2x faster (vs the OCed results).

I'll believe the one who post the video with settings and showing the run. Lol

Not some "tweaked" settings...
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This just in, architecture from 2017 is faster than architecture from 2013...

No, silly! It means Apple is bad. It's Apple's fault that their four-year-old system can't keep up with a modern-day one.

Also, comparing a custom system to an OEM system is practically always disingenuous. Apple needs to make money, and marking up customization options and the hardware itself is the obvious way. A Dell, HP, Lenovo, or any workstation is going to, shockingly, make money the same way!

The main difference is that the Internet has an irrational hate for Apple and that you can't get OS X on a custom system (legally, that is), so you're forced to buy from a company the Internet dislikes. Hence videos like this.

It is Apple's fault for selling an outdated system for such an enormous price.

 

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No, silly! It means Apple is bad. It's Apple's fault that their four-year-old system can't keep up with a modern-day one.

Also, comparing a custom system to an OEM system is practically always disingenuous. Apple needs to make money, and marking up customization options and the hardware itself is the obvious way. A Dell, HP, Lenovo, or any workstation is going to, shockingly, make money the same way!

The main difference is that the Internet has an irrational hate for Apple and that you can't get OS X on a custom system (legally, that is), so you're forced to buy from a company the Internet dislikes. Hence videos like this.

Exact nice post!

Unfortunately we can't blame completely consumers for this, nor apple!

We can blame consumers only because most of people are ignorant now about tech stuff, in the last 15 years either you follow because you have passion about, either you got raped.

We can blame aple, intel, lenovo/IBM, dell, because they slowly took advantage of that moving to a lower end sold like high end!

If you get scammed while buying a car because you know nothing about cars people won't blame you, they will blame the seller. You are not expected to take up a mechanics course just to understand car technology, nor are you expected to be a computer expert when you by a PC. Apple sell not because of great hardware but because of the logo on the device.

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Not surprising.
But I didn't expect an overclocked Ryzen to score 7.7s eek.gif
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