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thats not really a surprise, to apple defense most people who uses mac for that type of work uses final cut which can't be run on windows.

Apple's defence? What for? They don't deserve any excuses.
Also final cut? That imovie on steroids app?
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I'll believe the one who post the video with settings and showing the run. Lol

Not some "tweaked" settings...

He doesn't show the settings. And some tweaks just require to disable the OS X metal and force compute API and OpenCL.
But you can believe whatever you want. Some people believe that the earth is flat so...
I don't have a reason to lie.
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The mac pro is old. 2013 old. Not many are buying it today compared to in 2013-2014 anyway.
And? It's still sold on Apple's website for the same price as the day it was launched when it already used outdated hardware.
What if you bought one in 2013 and you need and upgrade?
The fact that a PC for way less than half the price can performs much better shows just how bad Apple's current Mac Pro is.
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The fact that a PC for way less than half the price can performs much better shows just how bad Apple's current Mac Pro is.

No, it shows how bad the price is. The hardware is no worse than it was at release.
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Ryzen is stupid fast in Ps/Lr (same same only different) export jobs, as it is in DxO Optics Pro compared to previous generations and similarly priced Intel processors.

 

Their results align with mines.

   
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No, silly! It means Apple is bad. It's Apple's fault that their four-year-old system can't keep up with a modern-day one.

Also, comparing a custom system to an OEM system is practically always disingenuous. Apple needs to make money, and marking up customization options and the hardware itself is the obvious way. A Dell, HP, Lenovo, or any workstation is going to, shockingly, make money the same way!

The main difference is that the Internet has an irrational hate for Apple and that you can't get OS X on a custom system (legally, that is), so you're forced to buy from a company the Internet dislikes. Hence videos like this.

Irrational? So it's irrational to actually make fun of a company who is asking over 5k for a product that is outdated in most aspects? rolleyes.gif

The blind love for Apple is just too much.
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He doesn't show the settings. And some tweaks just require to disable the OS X metal and force compute API and OpenCL.
But you can believe whatever you want. Some people believe that the earth is flat so...
I don't have a reason to lie.

Seriously... Even if the Ryzen system performed on par, you can not justify the 4k price hike...
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Minor nitpick but the custom built PC is using Windows but didn't include it in the cost.

That aside, it should go without saying that a OEM built PC using 2017 tech is more cost efficient and advanced than a big market brand prebuilt using 2013 tech. Time explains the difference in performance. Brand (big name vs. literally buying components and assembling yourself, the biggest difference possible) explains the difference in price. This has been true for years in both computing and pretty much everything else where "premium" brands exist.
Edited by Mike395 - 4/10/17 at 3:48am
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thats not really a surprise, to apple defense most people who uses mac for that type of work uses final cut which can't be run on windows.

My father-in-law, who is probably the least tech-savy person I've ever met has adopted Premiere to do his wedding videography. I had built him a hackintosh in 2014, and after some badgering I showed him how slow it was with a 4790 and 280x (mind you, I swapped out the 280 for a 970 when he switched to Windows) running Yosemite vs Windows. In this day and age, there is honestly is no reason at all to use FCX other than the fact one is too lazy/set in their way to learn a new program.

Editing/caching/encoding easily took a quarter of the time it did on Mac.
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And? It's still sold on Apple's website for the same price as the day it was launched when it already used outdated hardware.
What if you bought one in 2013 and you need and upgrade?
The fact that a PC for way less than half the price can performs much better shows just how bad Apple's current Mac Pro is.

If you bought it in 2013, you most likely don't need an upgrade. It is still a beast of a machine.
You don't buy it to upgrade it every year 1-2 like in the desktop market.

You can also buy a 4790K today for 300$+. It doesn't mean people are buying it does it?

Also regarding hardware, they are not the same (like ECC memory and workstation grade GPUs).
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Seriously... Even if the Ryzen system performed on par, you can not justify the 4k price hike...

I'm not, and I don't.
If you plan to buy now, I would not recommend getting a mac pro.
If you have a mac pro, I would not recommend getting a ryzen over it.

The fact that apple still sells it, is kinda irrelevant. You can find old bulldozer CPUs being sold, or DDR3 memory, or old chip motherboards, or older V2/V3 xeon etc.
If I go up and say "well if you buy a mac pro from apple store, and a new bulldozer that you can build, the mac pro will be faster", people will go up in arm how I dare compare a new mac pro to old hardware now wouldn't they?

The comparison is kinda meant to trash, not to really give you informative data.

BTW, I have two local stores where I live that sell apple hardware. They sell the 4 core phased out CPU version with D300s. It still doesn't mean it is a good purchase just because someone is selling it.
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