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Get to the present.... This is not the old AMD which needed many cores to beat or compete with intel. THey do it today with ease while using less power.

Get out of the past.

The words of a blind fanboy reading derogatory remarks against AMD where there were none.
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Dominate in value, most likely. Dominate in power consumption, maybe. Performance will be mostly equivalent, especially for the higher core count models. I don't think any Xeon with more than 10 cores are clocked above 4 ghz, which is the clock ceiling of Ryzen. It's just what AMD needs to gain some much needed server marketshare.

Performance will be equivalent at similar core count but if AMD's 16 core Zen goes against intel's 10 core HEDT CPU because it will be priced similarly it will also have the performance crown.
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Performance will be equivalent at similar core count but if AMD's 16 core Zen goes against intel's 10 core HEDT CPU because it will be priced similarly it will also have the performance crown.

Since when did having equivalent performance at a lower price point equal having the performance crown? poke.gif

Performance crown means performance crown, and that means having absolute best performance. Best value is best performance at whatever price point chosen.
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Since when did having equivalent performance at a lower price point equal having the performance crown? poke.gif

Performance crown means performance crown, and that means having absolute best performance. Best value is best performance at whatever price point chosen.

 

It's not hard to understand that if an 8-core mainstream desktop Ryzen matches a 6900K clock for clock and core for core, a 32c Naples will absolutely smash a 24c lower clocked Xeon core for core and clock for clock, too.

 

Nothing about fanboyism or anything else - the cores themselves are as strong, they consume less power each, and there's more of them. Simple additive math.

   
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Since when did having equivalent performance at a lower price point equal having the performance crown? poke.gif

Performance crown means performance crown, and that means having absolute best performance. Best value is best performance at whatever price point chosen.
16 cores vs 10 cores = performance crown. I was talking about the 6950X, Intel's fastest consumer CPU.

Also last I checked Intel doesn't have a equivalent to Naples.
Edited by Serios - 4/10/17 at 2:23am
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If I start seeing chess engine enthusiasts switching over to Naples systems, I know AMD has made it...

   
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I knew I was right to buy a MORA biggrin.gif
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I'm not too sure about this.

I was once on the backseat of the RX 480 hype train (I had expectations, but not as high as ppl who hoped it could rival GTX980). My expectation was to have it 5-10% above GTX970, and its price sticking to MSRP.

None of that happened, along with pretty intense power draw and heat emission.

If there is one lesson I should learn from RX 480 launch, it would be never to believe in AMD hype

If there should be a second lesson I should learn from RX 480 launch, it would be that even if the product does deliver the previous promises, this good news will instantly be reflected to the price.


Basically I'm saying, it wouldn't surprise me if this CPU turns out "meh", and if it's really crushing intel CPUs in multi-thread performance like they said, it's probably the only segment it excels at. OR, if the CPU really is total domination in the areas they claim, and still decent in other tasks, AMD would not price it much lower than intel's counterpart.
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I'm not too sure about this.

I was once on the backseat of the RX 480 hype train (I had expectations, but not as high as ppl who hoped it could rival GTX980). My expectation was to have it 5-10% above GTX970, and its price sticking to MSRP.

None of that happened, along with pretty intense power draw and heat emission.

If there is one lesson I should learn from RX 480 launch, it would be never to believe in AMD hype

 

I must've said this twenty times by now.

 

AMD didn't hype the 480, the fanbase did. AMD said it delivered 50% higher performance per watt than Hawaii at R9 290 performance levels.

 

What they said, basically, is that they got the performance of a R9 290 but at 50% higher perf/watt. And this was crystal clear in their slides.

 

 

Readers extrapolated that (as anyone could expect) as it having the same power consumption of a R9 290 but at 50% higher performance - and thus the senseless hype train started.

   
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They showed the E5-2699 V4 using 1866 but it lists 1600/1866/2133/2400 support.
http://ark.intel.com/products/91317/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2699-v4-55M-Cache-2_20-GHz
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16 cores vs 10 cores = performance crown. I was talking about the 6950X, Intel's fastest consumer CPU.

Also last I checked Intel doesn't have a equivalent to Naples.
The next iteration has support for 2667 and released in Q2.
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