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Show me which charts you're looking at because the one in the OP shows a 0.9% difference in the quad vs 8-core at 1080p for the average. Specific games will benefit from multi-threading but that doesn't really matter if the user doesn't plan on playing them. If their budget holds them back from getting a 6-core they're not going to be buying every game out there and most likely stick to the F2P games which rely more on single threaded performance.

It's a $50-$60 difference between a quad and hex. Not a lot but enough to get a nice mouse which can make a bigger difference in the feel than 0.9% more fps. They could get faster RAM which would give them higher minimum fps which will make a bigger difference in feel as well.

I'm going off what I've seen in Youtube comparisons between games, watching the CPU usage through those. Sorry, wish I had better data on that.

But again, I'm talking more into the future. We've seen where CPU core counts are finally being used in games. AMD was ahead of itself when it went more cores in the past, but the timing is about right for that philosophy now, IMO. If 6+ core processors get popular, we all know developers will take advantage of this. Ashes of the Singularity, for instance, is one that seems to be chomping at the bit to get more cores going.

Again, if you want today's games with the best processor, go Intel. Future games and upgrade path, the AMD makes more sense. This is just my speculation and opinion on the matter. I can't actually see into the future and make any guarantees that Ryzen is going to be the better pick of the two in 5 years, but if I were a gambling man... wink.gif
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Games are still not really using much past 4 cores guys. 8 threads yes but not 4 cores.

I love ryzen too but I can at least look at data and step back and see numbers for what they are.
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Games are still not really using much past 4 cores guys. 8 threads yes but not 4 cores.

I love ryzen too but I can at least look at data and step back and see numbers for what they are.

You just reinforced my previous post.

If it can use 8 threads it can use 8 cores. The extent of the usage may vary.

Unless I am missing something lol
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Again, if you want today's games with the best processor, go Intel. Future games and upgrade path, the AMD makes more sense.

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of games released last year that use as many cores as their fed, so this myth that games still don't use more than 4 cores needs to die
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You just reinforced my previous post.

If it can use 8 threads it can use 8 cores. The extent of the usage may vary.

Unless I am missing something lol
You pretty much nailed it, but the issue is that the additional threads are not being used anywhere near to their full extent. Fully loading four threads and placing a small load on the next four doesn't really do anything if the performance penalty from running a quad instead is in the 0-10% range. That's both better and for worse, the Ryzen hexa and octa both have far more performance potential than it may seem in many current game benchmarks, but it's going to take some time before that's going to show in practice.

Still, Ryzen hexa+SMT vs an i5 quad is pretty much a no-brainer, it's just insanely fast for the price. If you absolutely need the best gaming performance you're probably going to get the 7700k anyway.
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Games are still not really using much past 4 cores guys. 8 threads yes but not 4 cores.

I love ryzen too but I can at least look at data and step back and see numbers for what they are.

Use 4 cores and 8 threads, but not 8 cores. Wow... This is one of the greatest posts ever.thumb.gif
 
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Use 4 cores and 8 threads, but not 8 cores. Wow... This is one of the greatest posts ever.thumb.gif

Yea, this came to mind:



At any rate, 8 cores should perform better than 8 threads, provided that its 4 cores with SMT/Hyperthreading...am I right?
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Yea, this came to mind:



At any rate, 8 cores should perform better than 8 threads, provided that its 4 cores with SMT/Hyperthreading...am I right?

I think the 4T are not being used fully so 8C have no read advantage over 4C/8T.
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Why? If some one comes to me the request that all they plan to do is surf the net and game a ton. They have zero desire outside that and want the absolutle best gaming performance for there dollar.

I have another person who asked for a pc that can do everything and they want to do some light content creation with some gaming on the side. That build I will be doing ryzen.

Food for thought: what if you used Ryzen 5 1400 instead of the 7600K, and use the money saved to put in a better GPU? Arguably that would make a bigger difference no?
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Food for thought: what if you used Ryzen 5 1400 instead of the 7600K, and use the money saved to put in a better GPU? Arguably that would make a bigger difference no?

Cant really speak for 1400 vs 7600 but let say you buy 7600K vs 7700K. With with extra $100 u can upgrade from GTX 1060 to GTX 1070. 30% more performance. Problem is when you want to upgrade the GPU you can get a faster GPU latter on without getting bottlenecked. You saved $100 and ended up upgrading the entire system.
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