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^ tom's hardware workstation benches






^ techspot




^ https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-review-benchmarks "AMD Ryzen 5 1600X review: the most significant gaming CPU AMD have ever made"






http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-1500x-processor-reviews_193479/4



overclockers club http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_ryzen_5_1600x__1500x_processor/6.htm



hardwareinfo https://nl.hardware.info/product/benchmarks/3/processors?products%5B%5D=390849&specId=18218&tcId=398


http://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-and-1500x-processor-reviews-and-benchmarks?page=4


https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/amd-ryzen-5-test/2/#diagramm-euler3d-cfd-benchmark

I think for anything that uses DX11 or older the Ryzen 5 hexcore should be a fine CPU. smile.gif

More importantly look at the difference between a Ryzen and a FX-8370! thumb.gif
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I5 7600k is still beating the 1600x in alot of gaming test I am seeing.

For a pure gaming build the i5 7600k still looks like a better choice.

Okay,
Did you ever notuc that all of the sudden less cores is better after ryzen was launched?

They also show i3 7350k beatibg ivy i7, but does that matter? Areyou goigto play SP on low setting?

NO, you are going to play fully populated with loads of deatils(nobody like pop-in) with some gpu setting off.

You will also play fully populated mp.

Lookslike 2016 was a years for 4c/8t or more...,but 2017 is a year for 2c/4t at 6GHz.

I think it's more that we're finding there are efficiency gains still to be had from understanding how and under what circumstances multithreading vs single-threading delivers better results, as well as how multithreading optimizations themselves deliver the desired results.

For example, Ryzen exposed the fact that developers have been almost unconsciously optimizing for Intel-structured multithreading environments in the Windows ecosystem, and failing to account for how other CPUs such as AMD's might operate due to their architectural differences.
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Anyone else find it odd how the i5-7500 is somehow topping some performance charts in these reviews:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I honestly wouldn't even trust PCPer's numbers at this point, the amount of inconsistancies is ridiculous. Both the Ryzen and Kaby stack are all over the place. 7500>7700k=7600k in the first, 7500>7700k=7600k and 1500X>1700X>1800X in the second. Even if the Ryzen results were explained by using old numbers the low clocked i5 leading the pack (with the 1600X of all things) makes no sense, not to mention the 1700X having quite the lead over the 1800X. If you're a professional reviewer that sort of results should at the very least be thrown away as unreliable, but no mention of retesting or even an attempt to explain the results. I've not read many of their previous reviews since they can't seem to bother to even try, and glancing this one over they don't seem to be doing any better.
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Okay,
Did you ever notuc that all of the sudden less cores is better after ryzen was launched?

They also show i3 7350k beatibg ivy i7, but does that matter? Areyou goigto play SP on low setting?

NO, you are going to play fully populated with loads of deatils(nobody like pop-in) with some gpu setting off.

You will also play fully populated mp.

Lookslike 2016 was a years for 4c/8t or more...,but 2017 is a year for 2c/4t at 6GHz.
An i5 seems like a bad investement at this point, especially at the price those are going for in Europe. An used 2500k-4690k is still an option since you can usually get the CPU+mobo+RAM for around 200€ and the Pentium is still decent as it costs so little, but especially the locked i5s bring nowhere near the performance improvements they should for the price. It's not looking like something to keep for 3-4 years if you want to have anything in the background or if the software developers decide to even sneeze in the direction of using more than four threads.
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A lot of it has to do with the NVIDIA GPU not bottlenecking the CPU, look towards GTA:V and overall FPS. When the FPS starts to become constant across most of the CPUs, especially within the same brand and family, it's being GPU bottle-necked. It's the same reason why testing at lower resolutions helps to remove the GPU as a bottleneck. Another thing is that some games are heavily optimized for certain GPU architectures. I will say that re-testing the 1700, i found that Ryzen's gaming performance did increase in certain titles over the past month, some of those titles don't even have updates.

So why not test with a FuryX and do both 1080p and 720p? There is no excuse for reviews that ignore AMD gpus. Even if there is no issue with the software scheduler in the NV driver and Ryzen, AMD's hw scheduler scales significantly better with more threads which means that the ipc and frequency advantage of current i5s will be balanced to a degree by the higher thread count of R5 in DX12 titles.
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I honestly wouldn't even trust PCPer's numbers at this point, the amount of inconsistancies is ridiculous. Both the Ryzen and Kaby stack are all over the place. 7500>7700k=7600k in the first, 7500>7700k=7600k and 1500X>1700X>1800X in the second. Even if the Ryzen results were explained by using old numbers the low clocked i5 leading the pack (with the 1600X of all things) makes no sense, not to mention the 1700X having quite the lead over the 1800X. If you're a professional reviewer that sort of results should at the very least be thrown away as unreliable, but no mention of retesting or even an attempt to explain the results. I've not read many of their previous reviews since they can't seem to bother to even try, and glancing this one over they don't seem to be doing any better.
An i5 seems like a bad investement at this point, especially at the price those are going for in Europe. An used 2500k-4690k is still an option since you can usually get the CPU+mobo+RAM for around 200€ and the Pentium is still decent as it costs so little, but especially the locked i5s bring nowhere near the performance improvements they should for the price. It's not looking like something to keep for 3-4 years if you want to have anything in the background or if the software developers decide to even sneeze in the direction of using more than four threads.

I really likes their GPU reviews but man this Ryzen review seemed rushed and terrible.
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I like the performance increases AMD has made with Ryzen, but I hope they work on the power efficiency for Ryzen 2.


Do the power consumption comparison test on AVX2 based apps and table will turn.
    
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How is a 6 core Ryzen 5 drawing so much more than an 8 core i7?

Broadwell-E is generally pretty power efficient and Ryzen is quite well utilized in Cinebench.

There could well be per-sample variances. I can find two 6900Ks that, at stock clocks in the same board/system, under the same load, draw more than 30w apart.
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power seems fine to me.

Prime95 has issues on Ryzen and the BW-E's are doing more than twice as much work there.

Have to wait for version 29.x or 30.x for a sable P95 release that functions correctly on Ryzen.
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Do the power consumption comparison test on AVX2 based apps and table will turn.

As will the performance.
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Still no match for the 7700 in gaming

He he... really? Ryzen 7 might not be a match either, but considering everything you can do on a Ryzen 7. Sky is the limit.
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As will the performance.

Indeed Indeed !
I might be wrong though but after seeing the performance per watt score of Ryzen 5 in CBR15, I think I haven't seen any AVX2 based load where Intel beat AMD with such efficiency. Of course this will vary with other types of loads but anyways.
    
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I5 7600k is still beating the 1600x in alot of gaming test I am seeing.

For a pure gaming build the i5 7600k still looks like a better choice.
7600k is at most 10-15% ahead of 1600x in gaming, but 1600x have 8 more threads, means much more room to grow
mean while i5 is at it's limit, and what if you suddenly decide to do something else than gaming, you will be clutching your hair out on the i5
this is coming from a 4.6ghz 4690k owner, that usually at 70% load in gaming
please guys, push the boundary, quad cores are done
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