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post #11 of 25
The EK Coolstream X360 is a very large radiator, make sure you double check your case as it is 60mm think, with fans you are at 85mm and in push pull, you're at 105mm.

I sold my x360 and went with the PE 360, it's 38mm thick and will fit in a lot more cases.
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post #12 of 25
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About the fans, I think i'll take these for my radiators NF-F12 PWM. They have great static pressure. The only thing that worries me is the potential noise because 3 of them will go in PUSH in in front of the case and 2 in PUSH out inside the case. I saw that the NF-P12 make less noise but it isn't the top for static pressure. The cost of the 2 fans is the same and they perform better than Corsair and others for noise / pressure / air moved.

Data sheet:

NF-F12 PWM
Max RPM: 1500
dB/A: 22,4
m³/h: 93,4
mm H2O: 2,61

noise test: NF-F12 PWM


NF-P12 PWM
Max RPM: 1300
dB/A: 19,8
m³/h: 92,3
mm H2O: 1,68

noise test: NF-P12 PWM


link NOCTUA: Which fan is right for me?
post #13 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsunn View Post

The EK Coolstream X360 is a very large radiator, make sure you double check your case as it is 60mm think, with fans you are at 85mm and in push pull, you're at 105mm.

I sold my x360 and went with the PE 360, it's 38mm thick and will fit in a lot more cases.

Yeah I'm waiting for the case that will arrive on Wednesday before ordering the water cooling things. In any case I think I'll go PUSH only. I saw some review and I read that PULL only is not so good, PUSH is very good and PUSH/PULL is better but not so better (2° Celsius better compared to PUSH only). Hope I read correct.
post #14 of 25

I was just looking at the specs for your case and it does not appear to support any rads larger than 280mm with a maximum length of 297mm for the top rad. Didn't know if you were aware of this as you had mentioned going with a 360mm rad.

post #15 of 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jestereightfour View Post

I was just looking at the specs for your case and it does not appear to support any rads larger than 280mm with a maximum length of 297mm for the top rad. Didn't know if you were aware of this as you had mentioned going with a 360mm rad.

Moving back the HD cages in the case basement and removing the 2 optical drive cage at the top, the case can host a 360mm rad. I saw some build with 360mm rad online thumb.gif

Anyway, when I'll receive the case, I'll take all the measures before ordering everything.

For now I think I found the pump and the reservoir:

EK-XTOP Revo D5 PWM - Plexi (incl. sleeved pump)

EK-RES X3 250



I was thinking about take a pump / reservoir attached like this EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM (incl. sleeved pump) but I think a bigger reservoir will be nicer and cooler maybe?
Edited by fevion - 4/17/17 at 9:16am
post #16 of 25

I have the x3 250 res with a multiport top and really like the setup. And yeah, the bigger reservoirs do add a certain flair to your build :) Here's a thread I started with pics of my build. Maybe it will help you with yours somehow: http://www.overclock.net/t/1628197/from-test-bench-to-case-made-the-move/0_50#post_26022328

 

I posted a link to a video at the bottom of the thread in case pics don't "do it" for ya lol

post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jestereightfour View Post

I have the x3 250 res with a multiport top and really like the setup. And yeah, the bigger reservoirs do add a certain flair to your build smile.gif Here's a thread I started with pics of my build. Maybe it will help you with yours somehow: http://www.overclock.net/t/1628197/from-test-bench-to-case-made-the-move/0_50#post_26022328

I posted a link to a video at the bottom of the thread in case pics don't "do it" for ya lol

Really nice config biggrin.gif I was wondering about soft and rigid tubing but I decided for PETG just to complicate my life ahahah

Anyway, is better: PETG 16/12mm or PETG 12/10mm? I'm going to use this pump EK-XTOP Revo D5 PWM - Plexi
Edited by fevion - 4/18/17 at 5:49am
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
I noticed now that the 360mm rad use 120mm fans and the 280mm rad use 140mm fans. If I want to handle the RPM of the 2 types of fans separately, I have to plug them in different pins (fans controller), or I need a fans hub?

The cooler master mastercase 5t have a fan hub but i can't find if I can plug it on the mobo instead of the case that have only two types of speed low 7v and high 12v.


And just to know, can this things be connected together?
I'm trying to figure out how to connect the reservoir to a valve for when I want to empty the loop.

Reservoir

to

EK-AF Angled 90° G1/4 Black

to

I link this Bitspower and not EK because I can't find an EK connector x2 male....
Bitspower Adapter 2x male G1/4 red


to

EK-AF Ball Valve (10mm) G1/4 - Black
Edited by fevion - 4/18/17 at 9:26am
post #19 of 25

I remember watching a jayztwocents video and he claimed that tube size didn't make a huge difference as far as cooling performance went. I can't say much on the matter because I've only used one size so far, 3/8 x 1/2" or 10/13mm. Might be something to look into if you're trying to maximize your loop. I get very good temps with my little setup. My 8350 is always under 45c while gaming and my RX 480 idles at around 28c and tops out at around 44c at stock volts with mild overclock.

 

Here's an ek male/male extension: http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-af-extender-6mm-m-m-g1-4-black.html

 

I used an extension so I could get a ball valve right off my reservoir. You'll want to pay close attention when trying to connect some things together for the first time as you may need more extensions or maybe even male/female extensions. I ran into a situation where I wanted to do a double 90 but didn't have the male/female adapter so I had to rethink my setup. Anyways, you'll want to put the drain at the lowest point in your loop, if possible. Mine is not, due to lack of space, but it still drains just fine. Once I drain my res, I disconnect my return line going to the res and blow in it to push as much water back through the loop and into the res. It works pretty well actually.

 

If you want full control of your fans then you could just run them through a fan controller. You could put your 140s on one channel and your 120s on another. Or you could run them through your motherboard on different headers. I have the fans on my top mounted rad going through the CPU_OPT header and my front vardars running through a chassis fan header.

post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jestereightfour View Post

I remember watching a jayztwocents video and he claimed that tube size didn't make a huge difference as far as cooling performance went. I can't say much on the matter because I've only used one size so far, 3/8 x 1/2" or 10/13mm. Might be something to look into if you're trying to maximize your loop. I get very good temps with my little setup. My 8350 is always under 45c while gaming and my RX 480 idles at around 28c and tops out at around 44c at stock volts with mild overclock.

Here's an ek male/male extension: http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-af-extender-6mm-m-m-g1-4-black.html

I used an extension so I could get a ball valve right off my reservoir. You'll want to pay close attention when trying to connect some things together for the first time as you may need more extensions or maybe even male/female extensions. I ran into a situation where I wanted to do a double 90 but didn't have the male/female adapter so I had to rethink my setup. Anyways, you'll want to put the drain at the lowest point in your loop, if possible. Mine is not, due to lack of space, but it still drains just fine. Once I drain my res, I disconnect my return line going to the res and blow in it to push as much water back through the loop and into the res. It works pretty well actually.

If you want full control of your fans then you could just run them through a fan controller. You could put your 140s on one channel and your 120s on another. Or you could run them through your motherboard on different headers. I have the fans on my top mounted rad going through the CPU_OPT header and my front vardars running through a chassis fan header.

Nice thanks. Finally the case is here and I spent a lot of time taking the correct measures.

The CoolStream XE 360 is ok in front of the case, but I have changed the top rad with this CoolStream SE 240 because is less thicker 2,6cm + 2,5cm of fan = 5,1cm and have 1,4cm space between the fans and the mobo. The CoolStream PE 240 is 3,8cm thicker and with the fan 2,5cm = 6,3cm and have 0,2cm space between the fans and the mobo... now the problem is, better take the CoolStream XE 360 (front) and the CoolStream SE 240 (top) because I don't want risk the 0,2cm space between mobo and a 1500rpm fan that I'll have with the CoolStream PET 240 (top), OR take only the CoolStream XE 360 (front) with 2 normal exhausting fans on top instead of a rad? My doubt is if a 2,6cm thick rad (280mm length) will add some cool to the 6cm thick rad (400mm length), or it will be just a waste of money.

Like I said I want to cool mobo mosfet, i7-7700k overclocked as much as i can in daily (i really don't want exceed 1,4vCore) and the top ATI GPU or a GTX 1080 Ti that I'll overclock as much as i can too.
Edited by fevion - 4/19/17 at 12:55pm
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