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Cant wait for next CES so that TV will come with HDMI 2.1.
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Because the G-Sync module does a lot more than you are giving it credit for.

There are key differences in how G-Sync and FreeSync function, especially when it comes to dealing with frame timing. One aspect of the G-sync module is the 768 MB of RAM on it, which is used to store previous frame data, that way in the event of a missed frame it can reinsert the previous frame directly from the module without impacting latency. PCPer has a pretty in-depth article about what the module is for. It wasn't done just because, it has purpose and was the reason for G-Sync working so well at launch.

Either way, I would expect to see a software and hardware implementation of G-Sync in the future. Hardware where they can get away with it for the better performance and software where they can't fit the hardware.

I know what it does, I just don't think it offers enough tangible advantage (certainly not enough that most people would notice) for NVIDIA to want to continue with it once they finally adopt VESA's adaptive sync.

No one seems to be complaining about the better FreeSync implementations any more and NVIDIA could easily drop the hardware and still charge a premium for their G-Sync certification based on their commanding market share.
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thanks Microsoft and Sony for advancing the console space

meanwhile, Nintendo just recently ventured into 600p rendered games.

But, but, but, but, but, Zelda.............

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I know what it does, I just don't think it offers enough tangible advantage (certainly not enough that most people would notice) for NVIDIA to want to continue with it once they finally adopt VESA's adaptive sync.

No one seems to be complaining about the better FreeSync implementations any more and NVIDIA could easily drop the hardware and still charge a premium for their G-Sync certification based on their commanding market share.

While these are fair points, we already know that Nvidia is working on a "G-Sync v2", and it is rumored to offer new features unique to it. What those are and if they actually mean a damn thing is yet to be seen.

However, FreeSync is coming along very nicely thanks to folks like Nixeus and without a doubt the VRR markets will merge into one standard - G-Sync likely going away in a few years. This will happen as VRR becomes that standard and the display manufacturers as a whole adopt it as a general display feature. We may even see future HDMI and DP standards require support for VRR, instead of it being an option within the standard like now.

I will continue to preach the virtues of VRR until it is a true mandatory standard of every display type being sold. It literally is an Accessibility issue because many of us suffer so horribly from motion sickness when there is stutter, jutter, and other visual artifacts happening. To be able to game or enjoy media without headaches and nausea, that is no small thing.
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While this is very surprising and awesome news to potential Scorpio owners, the fact that there are zero HDMI 2.1 equipped Free-sync televisions on the market let alone PC monitors that support Free-sync over HDMI is something to consider. Honestly, by the time such products hit the market I wouldn't imagine we would be at the PS5 and new Xbox platforms. Cool perk of the Scorpio either way.
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While this is very surprising and awesome news to potential Scorpio owners, the fact that there are zero HDMI 2.1 equipped Free-sync televisions on the market let alone PC monitors that support Free-sync over HDMI is something to consider. Honestly, by the time such products hit the market I wouldn't imagine we would be at the PS5 and new Xbox platforms. Cool perk of the Scorpio either way.

There are PC monitor with Freesync over HDMI.
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post #26 of 148
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There are PC monitor with Freesync over HDMI.

Were there? Certainly no HDMI 2.1 spec products though.
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Were there? Certainly no HDMI 2.1 spec products though.
There haven't been a market for them up until now though.
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While this is very surprising and awesome news to potential Scorpio owners, the fact that there are zero HDMI 2.1 equipped Free-sync televisions on the market let alone PC monitors that support Free-sync over HDMI is something to consider. Honestly, by the time such products hit the market I wouldn't imagine we would be at the PS5 and new Xbox platforms. Cool perk of the Scorpio either way.

Well, the Scorpio doesn't even come out till the end of this year so....And we have no idea when a new platform will come out from either company. They could wait ~5 years for an upgrade. It's best to support it because HDMI 2.1 could drop at any time (maybe next year?) and it'll already support it fully.

So yeah, as of now there are no TVs with it but it's a baked REQUIRED part of the HDMI 2.1 standard. Once that hits we should see wide adoption of it on TVs. Hopefully this further expands to the PC monitor market as well. VRR should really just become a thing across all panels everywhere.
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wth.gif YES! YES! YES! wheee.gif ... thumb.gif
Looks like I might just become a laptop lover since this console is about to handlle the gaming business thinking.gif

A laptop no slower than that console isn't really heavy/big these days.
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Well, the Scorpio doesn't even come out till the end of this year so....And we have no idea when a new platform will come out from either company. They could wait ~5 years for an upgrade. It's best to support it because HDMI 2.1 could drop at any time (maybe next year?) and it'll already support it fully.

So yeah, as of now there are no TVs with it but it's a baked REQUIRED part of the HDMI 2.1 standard. Once that hits we should see wide adoption of it on TVs. Hopefully this further expands to the PC monitor market as well. VRR should really just become a thing across all panels everywhere.

Hey, anything to stick it to Nvidia and their Gsync tax. That fact that it supports not only Freesync but Freesync 2.0 is a huge boon.
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