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I'm sorry Postal, but I've seen and played with both. Gsync "advantages" are not really tangible and certainly not worth the leather jacket tax nVidia imposes for "DEDICATED, UBER WOW GSYNC VRR MODULE."

I'm sorry, it just doesn't. Gsync should just die already.

Except that even still to this very day some FreeSync displays still have ghosting or other anomalies in their implementation. Not to mention the various windows of VRR on the various displays.

There is a reason I have followed Nixeus so close, they are about the only ones taking FreeSync seriously and investing into it to bring it as close to G-Sync as they have.
    
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I am pretty sure if Nvidia releases G-Sync 2.0 it will be with Volta. Its all marketing.
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I am pretty sure if Nvidia releases G-Sync 2.0 it will be with Volta. Its all marketing.

Considering they rolled back G-Sync support much farther into their past GPU stack than AMD did, I don't see it happening. Odd how you could make notion to Nvidia using G-Sync to restrict you on GPU selection when they support more cards than their counterpart. Where is the logic?

OT: FreeSync coming to console isn't some little thing and it is sad some of you here want to turn it into a war between Nvidia and AMD.
    
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Except that even still to this very day some FreeSync displays still have ghosting or other anomalies in their implementation. Not to mention the various windows of VRR on the various displays.

There is a reason I have followed Nixeus so close, they are about the only ones taking FreeSync seriously and investing into it to bring it as close to G-Sync as they have.

But is this a problem of freesync?

Are you comparing freesync and gsync as technologies or as implementation from the monitor makers?

Gsync has a better QA control because the market is way smaller than freesync (high-end monitors) and because it is a proprietary tech.

It is like any proprietary vs open standard tech. You control the tech , you have way better QA by default.
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Except that even still to this very day some FreeSync displays still have ghosting or other anomalies in their implementation. Not to mention the various windows of VRR on the various displays.

There is a reason I have followed Nixeus so close, they are about the only ones taking FreeSync seriously and investing into it to bring it as close to G-Sync as they have.

But is this a problem of freesync?

Are you comparing freesync and gsync as technologies or as implementation from the monitor makers?

Gsync has a better QA control because the market is way smaller than freesync (high-end monitors) and because it is a proprietary tech.

It is like any proprietary vs open standard tech. You control the tech , you have way better QA by default.
Yeah. Better QA... Sounds like time and effort.

Know how societies nowadays reward time and effort? With money. G-sync has been applicably better; therefore, it's more expensive.
    
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But is this a problem of freesync?

Are you comparing freesync and gsync as technologies or as implementation from the monitor makers?

Gsync has a better QA control because the market is way smaller than freesync (high-end monitors) and because it is a proprietary tech.

It is like any proprietary vs open standard tech. You control the tech , you have way better QA by default.

That is horse poop....

The reason for the better quality is that the G-Sync module replaces the scaler of the panel and is tuned specific to each panel. Where as with AMD's FreeSync they leave the scaler and its tuning to the display manufacturer itself. While G-Sync and FreeSync accomplish VRR they are doing it in two fairly different ways. G-Sync replaces the panels supporting hardware with the custom G-Sync hardware, tuned to it. Where as with FreeSync they are taking off the shelf scalers and parts and just trying to beat them into submission.

You can't directly compare them in terms of technology or even implementation, because they are both completely different than each other in those regard. The only similarity between the two is really the end result.

EDIT:

Basically the entire tuning and QA process is handled by Nvidia, at their incredible expense and time.

Don't believe me? Just ask @Peter Nixeus about their incredible investments of time and energy into their FreeSync panels.
    
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Yeah. Better QA... Sounds like time and effort.

Know how societies nowadays reward time and effort? With money. G-sync has been applicably better; therefore, it's more expensive.

So a problem with Monitor makers and not "Freesync".

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So a problem with Monitor makers and not "Freesync".

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No.

Read my post above.

EDIT:

I just realized that after two years we are still having a conversation about the basic differences between G-Sync and FreeSync.
    
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That is horse poop....

The reason for the better quality is that the G-Sync module replaces the scaler of the panel and is tuned specific to each panel. Where as with AMD's FreeSync they leave the scaler and its tuning to the display manufacturer itself. While G-Sync and FreeSync accomplish VRR they are doing it in two fairly different ways. G-Sync replaces the panels supporting hardware with the custom G-Sync hardware, tuned to it. Where as with FreeSync they are taking off the shelf scalers and parts and just trying to beat them into submission.

You can't directly compare them in terms of technology or even implementation, because they are both completely different than each other in those regard. The only similarity between the two is really the end result.

EDIT:

Basically the entire tuning and QA process is handled by Nvidia, at their incredible expense and time.

Don't believe me? Just ask @Peter Nixeus about their incredible investments of time and energy into their FreeSync panels.

I never said the opposite???

Just saying that QA is way better because the market is small and Nvidia can handle it and not leaving it on the display manufacturer.

No reason to get trigger'd like that
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No.

Read my post above.

EDIT:

I just realized that after two years we are still having a conversation about the basic differences between G-Sync and FreeSync.

In your post you said display manufacturer... How is that different from what i said?

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