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I am gonna probably buy an R5 1600 , with the off chance of an R7 1700 if there is a discount.
With either case I don't want to spent upwards of 200$ because in EU prices this means ~250 euros, and especially for the R5 it's too much to make sense (for example better invest that 100 extra euros on the R7 instead).

So the contestants look like :

1) Asus Prime X370 Pro
2) Asrock X370 Killer SLI
3) Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming K4
4) MSI X370 Krait Gaming

All these boards are about ~175 euros in my country.
My only concern is OCability (VRM quality, bios options, RAM ocability.... I believe none of those has clock generator right?)

Then, if you tell me that it's reeeeeallllly worth it, next option up is Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 , at 230 euros.

So what's the concensus as far as "budget" boards on VRMs and OCability?
post #2 of 23
Asus Prime X370 Pro

Yep, none in that list have the clock generator. If you wait the k5 (not the gaming 5) will have the clock generator and will be in your price range.
Edited by L33tBastard - 4/12/17 at 4:20pm
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The Asus Prime board has the best power delivery of any of those boards, using the same NextFETs as the Crosshair VI and ASRock Taichi. I personally think Asus' UEFI implementation is the best around too.
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get a b350 board dude
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so, 2 points for the Asus Prime...

I would get a B350 board honestly since I don't care about multi-gpu nor other luxuries like 2x M2 slots and stuff, however I believe there is none that have good OCability...


About RAM OCability that I've seen is hit n miss on Ryzen, is it only a matter of bios updates and carefull ram chips selection (samsung B) ? I mean some boards that reach higher speeds do it because the manufacturer has worked more on the bios or its a matter of vrm/something else quality actually...
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Every single motherboard on the market, x370 or b350, will push the cpu up to it's limits (air or AIO WC), that means... 4.0 to 4.1 if your particular cpu can get there, more or less a couple mhz, with decent volts.

The issue is sustaining that under load for any acceptable duration of time without the VRM starting to hit uncomfortable temps. At this time the b350 boards do not have VRM's capable of this, they start cooking really fast, past 100c... not good.

So you are better off with the "lower end" x370 boards, and from the options, as far as VRM goes, the Asus prime is the one to beat. Also good bios support from asus. That counts.
Edited by L33tBastard - 4/12/17 at 5:01pm
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Every single motherboard on the market, x370 or b350, will push the cpu up to it's limits (air or AIO WC), that means... 4.0 to 4.1 if your particular cpu can get there, more or less a couple mhz, with decent volts.

The issue is sustaining that under load for any acceptable duration of time without the VRM starting to hit uncomfortable temps. At this time the b350 boards do not have VRM's capable of this, they start cooking really fast, past 100c... not good.

So you are better off with the "lower end" x370 boards, and from the options, as far as VRM goes, the Asus prime is the one to beat. Also good bios support from asus. That counts.

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Every single motherboard on the market, x370 or b350, will push the cpu up to it's limits (air or AIO WC), that means... 4.0 to 4.1 if your particular cpu can get there, more or less a couple mhz, with decent volts.

The issue is sustaining that under load for any acceptable duration of time without the VRM starting to hit uncomfortable temps. At this time the b350 boards do not have VRM's capable of this, they start cooking really fast, past 100c... not good.

So you are better off with the "lower end" x370 boards, and from the options, as far as VRM goes, the Asus prime is the one to beat. Also good bios support from asus. That counts.

Of course I need to be able to sustain the overclock over time. I am hoping to get a chip that can do 4ghz for 24/7 without more than 1.4v.

By the way, assuming I found a good deal on the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 that brought it closer in price to the Prime, is it a good choice? What am I gaining?
I like the looks of it mostly, but a youtube reviewer bummed me saying he got 100mhz less OC on it than the Prime (but he could very well be a noob on auto voltage)
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I'm in the same boat as you, but need to stay mATX. Looking at this new ASRock B350 that got released today or yesterday. Seems to have 9 phases. Can't figure out why it's so cheap...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762&ignorebbr=1
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Of course I need to be able to sustain the overclock over time. I am hoping to get a chip that can do 4ghz for 24/7 without more than 1.4v.

By the way, assuming I found a good deal on the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 that brought it closer in price to the Prime, is it a good choice? What am I gaining?
I like the looks of it mostly, but a youtube reviewer bummed me saying he got 100mhz less OC on it than the Prime (but he could very well be a noob on auto voltage)

Both the prime and the gaming 5 have 6 phases for the vcore and 4 doubled for the SOC. Both have passive cooling (no heatpipe). I wouldn't say you are gaining anything at all as far as the VRM is concerned. Both being very capable of "driving" any Ryzen 7 to 4.0Ghz and keeping it their 24/7, as long as you do not have a **** cpu what would require more volts than 1.4.

The differences are mostly on the features and bios.

If you want to step up on the VRM department I'd say you are looking at the Taichi, Crosshair VI Hero or the Biostar X370GT7... The Biostar has a very capable VRM... and it is cheaper than the others. The only issue with the Biostar is the bios support maybe.
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