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I'm looking forward to playing Dawn of War III in a week on this monitor. smile.gif (honestly, if a game works with a controller, i'm going to play it on the 65" OLED G6 on the sofa with the dog and 7.1 sound. smile.gif )

ARGH! so sad mass effect was pooo. the HDR looked real good on it! HDR is pretty darn amazing and it is a shame this monitor doesn't support it. No, this isn't "close" smile.gif HDR is more than just being bright (well.. kinda it is... but it bright in the right places. smile.gif )


also, here are some crappy pix of 5%. It is still to light out. the camera on this phone isn't super and reflective screen (and all the white stuff around me) isn't helping. Vega has a better camera.



So your saying you prefer the 65" for gaming over the PPI this offers?

That's not encouraging, as my current setup is 7.2.4 with ATMOS, HDR, 3D, etc all connected to my computer and a 65" LG E6.

Why are your 5% images so bright? Your camera exposure rate has to be really really high, which is going to look any monitor's uniformity look bad.
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LOL.. tongue.gif

my eyes are spoiled.. I had 13.2MP display (3x Dell U3011) back in 2011 and went directly to 4K Surround and then back down to 5K in 2014. My eyes scream "peasant" when looking at 4K. biggrin.gif

In all honesty, I want BOTH OLED and high resolution --> 8K OLED would be... purrrrrfect.

Going to try sRGB tonight and see how this thing performs. The other lame thing I had to do was get an adapter that's miniDP to female-DP to connect my long DP 1.2 cable since my rig is in another room (biggrin.gif).

Now, where is my 8K monitor Dell? mad.gif LOL...

Considering I felt the difference between 92PPI and 107PPI was minimal, I can't imagine that 147PPI vs 217PPI would be all that noticeable, and 217PPI would require DPI scaling to be enjoyable in my opinion. To me, we are already in the land of serious diminishing returns.

You have to be one of the select few humans with beyond 20/20 vision.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/18/17 at 4:21pm
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Considering I felt the difference between 92PPI and 107PPI was minimal, I can't imagine that 147PPI vs 217PPI would be all that noticeable, and 217PPI would require DPI scaling to be enjoyable in my opinion. To me, we are already in the land of serious diminishing returns.

You have to be one of the select few humans with beyond 20/20 vision.

Well I sit at about the average 3 feet or so from my monitor(s).

The main thing is if you haven't experienced 5K in person for any significant amount of time and across various use-cases, it's hard to drive home the point of how good it looks over 4K.

My main rig has the 5K IPS right next to the 4K IPS (accessory display) and both are 27" which makes the comparison easy. The 4K looks downright pixelated compared to the 5K display.



Having said that - the 30" OLED feels very immersive (again - I've had only 2 hours with this thing so time will tell) and the colors are absolutely incredible (AdobeRGB). Yet, the picture quality - the sharpness, quality in terms of how crisp and clean the image looks pales in comparison to the 5K - this is my initial impression. Of course, your eyes adjust to everything so over time, I bet the OLED 4K would look "amazing" but as my initial assumption suggested - a higher resolution image is a higher resolution image. Dressing up a lower resolution image with better technology doesn't overcome that singular fact.

OLED is indeed a far superior technology to LCD - nobody denies that. At the end of the day, how does it feel to view images at a super high resolution on an LCD vs a relatively 'low' resolution OLED monitor? That's the question I must answer, especially once my Dell 8K monitor arrives.

Thankfully - I'll be using both so I'll have the benefit of both worlds. Yet, if I could keep only one - my eyes are firmly stuck on a higher resolution panel at this moment.
     
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So your saying you prefer the 65" for gaming over the PPI this offers?

That's not encouraging, as my current setup is 7.2.4 with ATMOS, HDR, 3D, etc all connected to my computer and a 65" LG E6.

of course i would! wouldn't you? why would you sit at a desk when you get all that other stuff (which is very close to my setup). The dog is there too! smile.gif

Only when playing a multiplayer game or a desktop game. like RTS, 4x, etc.. would i use the desk monitor. the HTPC and desktop PC are pretty much the same with all SSDs, 10 core CPUs and sli titan XPs
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Well I sit at about the average 3 feet or so from my monitor(s).

The main thing is if you haven't experienced 5K in person for any significant amount of time and across various use-cases, it's hard to drive home the point of how good it looks over 4K.

My main rig has the 5K IPS right next to the 4K IPS (accessory display) and both are 27" which makes the comparison easy. The 4K looks downright pixelated compared to the 5K display.



Having said that - the 30" OLED feels very immersive (again - I've had only 2 hours with this thing so time will tell) and the colors are absolutely incredible (AdobeRGB). Yet, the picture quality - the sharpness, quality in terms of how crisp and clean the image looks pales in comparison to the 5K - this is my initial impression. Of course, your eyes adjust to everything so over time, I bet the OLED 4K would look "amazing" but as my initial assumption suggested - a higher resolution image is a higher resolution image. Dressing up a lower resolution image with better technology doesn't overcome that singular fact.

OLED is indeed a far superior technology to LCD - nobody denies that. At the end of the day, how does it feel to view images at a super high resolution on an LCD vs a relatively 'low' resolution OLED monitor? That's the question I must answer, especially once my Dell 8K monitor arrives.

Thankfully - I'll be using both so I'll have the benefit of both worlds. Yet, if I could keep only one - my eyes are firmly stuck on a higher resolution panel at this moment.

The problem is:

- 5K cost a small fortune to run at 60FPS, significantly more than 4K.
- OLED is far more noticeable than increased PPI in my opinion.
- DPI scaling is pretty much a must at 217 PPI.
- You have a constant reminder when doing side by side comparisons. You see things you'd never notice if you just look at the monitor as-is.

I'm using a 65" 4K OLED which is only 67 PPI and I have a 110 PPI 4K monitor. 67 PPI at 5 feet seems dang close to the 110 PPI at 2 feet in terms of clarity (to my eyes). Both are really, really crisp at the respective distances and neither really need any form of AA. Past 110PPI @ 2 feet or so, I stop noticing large improvements.

I think you are exaggerating when you say 4K looks pixelated compared to 5k, unless perhaps your are leaning forward and about 1 feet away. tongue.gif
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of course i would! wouldn't you? why would you sit at a desk when you get all that other stuff (which is very close to my setup). The dog is there too! smile.gif

Only when playing a multiplayer game or a desktop game. like RTS, 4x, etc.. would i use the desk monitor. the HTPC and desktop PC are pretty much the same with all SSDs, 10 core CPUs and sli titan XPs

Well I have a desk on wheels so I get the entire setup with or without the monitor. I just wheel it in front of the sofa. I use my gaming computer as my HTPC too, which is in a different room connected via a long fiber optics HDMI cable. Having two separate setups seems super expensive, and doesn't make much sense to me unless you can't have a dedicated man cave. Screw living rooms, my friends just hang out in the man cave. tongue.gif
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Well I sit at about the average 3 feet or so from my monitor(s).

The main thing is if you haven't experienced 5K in person for any significant amount of time and across various use-cases, it's hard to drive home the point of how good it looks over 4K.

My main rig has the 5K IPS right next to the 4K IPS (accessory display) and both are 27" which makes the comparison easy. The 4K looks downright pixelated compared to the 5K display.



Having said that - the 30" OLED feels very immersive (again - I've had only 2 hours with this thing so time will tell) and the colors are absolutely incredible (AdobeRGB). Yet, the picture quality - the sharpness, quality in terms of how crisp and clean the image looks pales in comparison to the 5K - this is my initial impression. Of course, your eyes adjust to everything so over time, I bet the OLED 4K would look "amazing" but as my initial assumption suggested - a higher resolution image is a higher resolution image. Dressing up a lower resolution image with better technology doesn't overcome that singular fact.

OLED is indeed a far superior technology to LCD - nobody denies that. At the end of the day, how does it feel to view images at a super high resolution on an LCD vs a relatively 'low' resolution OLED monitor? That's the question I must answer, especially once my Dell 8K monitor arrives.

Thankfully - I'll be using both so I'll have the benefit of both worlds. Yet, if I could keep only one - my eyes are firmly stuck on a higher resolution panel at this moment.

What 4k and 5k displays do you have? Input lag? Gsync?


Also saying 27 inch 5k makes a 27 inch 4k look pixelated seems like a tad exaggeration no??!
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here are some darker 5% (but still with bad cell phone camera)

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here are some darker 5% (but still with bad cell phone camera)


I don't think your camera is capable of taking pictures of this display. 5% gray should be barely visible, so your camera's exposure is too high and showing way more defects than you'd see in person. I'd imagine in person, those look pretty uniform?

For reference here's what LG OLED tends to look like if you have a high exposure camera:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151124/0361ca9574fa4606dccd040cffa1ccb9.jpg
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I suppose its a matter of preference as I chose my 4k LG 55" OLED over the 5k. The 5ks LCD motion blur was very annoying in FPS games and more noticeable to me given its mammoth resolution and I found more real world benefit with the OLEDs infinite contrast, incredible blacks over the 5Ks impressive PPI which usually caused more pains in the butt than benefit IMHO. I also found its 27" size to small to be real world useable for what I do....although the 32" 8k would probably do me pretty good.....that extra 5" goes a long way thumb.gif
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I don't think your camera is capable of taking pictures of this display. 5% gray should be barely visible, so your camera's exposure is too high and showing way more defects than you'd see in person. I'd imagine in person, those look pretty uniform?

For reference here's what LG OLED tends to look like if you have a high exposure camera:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151124/0361ca9574fa4606dccd040cffa1ccb9.jpg

one of the selling points for the 3 people that still use Microsoft phones is the ability to take pix at very low light. smile.gif
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