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let's just take a picture of the same colorful image with the same settings and compare. This picture will be at 30% brightness, uniformity compensation off, standard color preset:

sir, im so sorry for the.. rolleyes.gif - but if the dance is starting - im in, P.L.E.A.S.E!! smile.gif
dell 3216 vs dell 3014

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I just can't understand this, i've used/have super fast 120/144hz monitors and notice barely no difference in input lag compared to my E6's 34ms input lag. 34ms is still so quick, it seems instant to me. I didn't even have problems on the EF9500, which had ~50ms input lag but I did notice it in FPS games. It just wasn't enough to be annoying. Either my reaction time is getting worse as I age (30 right now), or some people have some pretty super human sensitivities to input lag after using 120/144hz monitors for so long.

I notice the extra lag of 33-34ms vs my XB270HU in demanding games only, but I agree that it is not completely intolerable. I can't at all feel the difference between ~20ms and my XB270HU.
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Personally, I don't even understand the 120/144hz hype

I envy you. I wish I didn't need higher refresh rate, but I can feel the difference even between 144Hz and 165Hz lol.
In FPS, my skills are definitely better on my 165Hz monitor then on my LG E6.

Can somebody describe how is the FPS gaming experience on the DELL UP3017Q ?
Motion clarity must be amazing.
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Edited by advanceblog - 4/29/17 at 5:11pm
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You mentioned that the software would only work when the primaries were set to "native." Does that not imply that the software is doing nothing? After all, the native primaries are what the monitor produces without any calibration.

those are presets in the software and less an issue with the monitor itself. It is a monitor so the native for that is sRGB.. for the lum, that is odd. OLED are odd. This screen native (by the software and calman) read around 120. But 120 on a LCD screen would be dark, which this isn't. 120 on this monitor works well in a bright room, where my laptop (which is just also calibrated (not my OLED one, but a razerblade 4k screen) i liked around 190.
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Have you tried saving a profile to both, and/or loading the profiles via the software? Based on what I am seeing, it seems unlikely that it's not storing the information inside the monitor itself.

DDC info is being changed. Is it stored in the profiles? I have no idea. One of the options in Calman is to reset the DDC back to default and it pretty clear when it changes from my calibrated to default.
(it is also good to reset DDC before calibrating. But that doesn't seem to be there in the dell (x-rite) software. (But that is free software vs $400 software biggrin.gif )

Vega/Murlocke - you both have meters. Would you mind installing Calman Color check? (It is free or at least you can demo it. You are just reading the data)
http://calman.spectracal.com/calman-colormatch.html

Here is what my screen looks like after a DDC reset via a color check. (i1D, OLED screen, eRGB, full PC range, ICC (with or without ICC it didn't have an impact. maybe 1703 bug?)



The only thing the Dell Colar calibration report talks about is the grey scale ... but.. ugh.. under what profile dell? (that is something calibration via DDC can fix.)



EDIT:
FINE! i'll get a better meter. I'm on a mission to make this monitor perform better!
https://store.portrait.com/meters/spectracal-c6-hdr-colorimeter.html
Edited by Zurv - 4/20/17 at 11:39am
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Its nice to see some progress in terms of oled displays for pc users.

However, if I understood correctly, you cant turn off the strobing on this monitor and thats a major issue to be honest. So you can switch between single strobe at 60hz or double strobe at 60hz, right?

Single strobe at 60hz introduces massive flicker.

Double strobe at 60hz introduces a visible double contouring effect, a sort of ghost image behind objects and you can clearly see it. I find it really annoying.

At least double strobe at 60hz shows that the panel is capable of doing 120hz. So the future versions will likely support higher refresh rates with newer DP standards.


This version of the monitor is indeed an early adopters version. They need to release an improved v2 of this monitor with support for 120/144hz. At 120/144hz strobing has no downsides, as it is the case at 60hz single/double strobe.

I also wouldnt care about HDR that much, if they add it as a bonus in the V2- ofc Ill take it, but its not absolutely necessary. Whats necessary for me is support for high refresh rate of 120/144hz and if possible support for Adaptive Sync.

Also it would be great if they can bring down the price of the v2 to around 2K or perhaps even under 2K.

Again this monitor serves as an early adopters version, so that they can experiment with it, collect some data, user reviews etc. and make improvements in the v2.
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not buying another meter just for this display
sorry....this should already been pretty close to accurate colors out of box with factory calibration...Dell dropped the ball in this aspect.
     
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Well I got it but it won't do over 30hz via HDMI 2.0 no matter what I try. Directly connected it to the cable on the other 4K display which works at 60hz.

Any ideas?

EDIT: HDMI 2.0 is off in the menus by default. Why dell? Why? Anyway back to messing...
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Still only able to select 59hz via HDMI 2.0. Other owners confirm?

EDIT: Not good, on the right side there is a pixel thin line that is off colored and upon close inspection the line is flickering... It goes from the bottom bezel to the top.

EDIT2: My colors seem off on Standard, same as Zurv. No where near accurate. Very over saturated, none of the presets produce accurate color. No way that you can adjust that I can see without a sensor.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/20/17 at 12:47pm
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Still only able to select 59hz via HDMI 2.0. Other owners confirm?

EDIT: Not good, on the right side there is a pixel thin line that is off colored and upon close inspection the line is flickering... It goes from the bottom bezel to the top.

EDIT2: My colors seem off on Standard, same as Zurv. No where near accurate. Very over saturated, none of the presets produce accurate color. No way that you can adjust that I can see without a sensor.

Is your monitor Oct 2016 built too?

with HDMI 2.0 one can't do 10bit, rgb, full. But do make sure it is RGB 8bit and full. Darn nvidia driver loves to set it to limited.

It is real strange that the colors are so off. using the dell calibration software will make it kinda better, just remember, touch any OSD setting or presets will change the calibration and you will have to do it again.
I might try to calibrate using each of the presets. Also maybe play around with the extra OSD settings with picking movie.
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