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My conclusion after a few hours with it, not worth the price tag. A monitor like this should come calibrated in standard gamut for accuracy. It should have hardware calibration that loads into the monitor, bypassing ICC profiles. They cut out way too much. Why exactly is this $3500 when you can grab 2016 65" 4K OLEDs for ~$2200 when on sale?

PROS over my 65" E6:

- PPI is great
- Uniformity way better, both white and near black
- ABSL (dimming when image is bright) is far less aggressive

CONS over my 65" E6:

- Way less immersive due to only 30"
- Has a fan which in my opinion is very noticeable
- Colors are super oversaturated with no easy way to fix
- Doesn't seem to support hardware calibration and calibration settings in the monitor itself are limited.
- (Defect) has 1 pixel wide white stripe going from the top bezel to the bottom bezel 1 inch from the right side. Box shows no sign of damage.

My honest opinion: Buy 55" or 65" OLED TV instead. Put your keyboard and mouse and small stand with wheels and sit 5-6 feet away, buy/make a 5-6 foot deep desk, or put your desk 5-6 feet away from the wall and wall mount the TV.

If you absolutely do not want a TV setup, then this is still better than any other LCD monitor as long as you can tolerate 60hz.

I do agree with some of your thoughts, here are some of mine:

1. It is really a $3000 monitor, seeing as anyone can get it for that price.
2. PPI is really good.
3. Uniformity is better than my LG OLED's.
4. ABL isn't very intrusive at all. Much more suitable for computer use than LG's.
5. "Immersion" is a fickle thing. Sure a 65" will be "big", but you have to push it way back. Just sit closer to the 30" for nearly the same effect / viewing perspective.
6. Like Zurf, the fan is really only noticeable to me from the back. If from the front in a normal room and you can't hear it, does the fan really matter? FYI the fan sucks in air from the bottom by the ports and kicks the heat out the slit at the top that runs width wise. Cools the panel.
7. No over-saturated colors on my end, shown by multiple pics.
8. What calibration settings on the monitor are missing? Has RGBCMY adjustments. Unless you mean gamma higher than 2.2.
9. I would return it of course with a line of pixels out. Hell, for $3K I would probably return it with a single pixel out.
10. Most people aren't going to want to make some huge elaborate setup just to use a large TV as a monitor.


Are both of you using the HDMI 2.0 port?
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6. Like Zurf, the fan is really only noticeable to me from the back. If from the front in a normal room and you can't hear it, does the fan really matter? FYI the fan sucks in air from the bottom by the ports and kicks the heat out the slit at the top that runs width wise. Cools the panel.

See my previous post. Either my house is super quiet compared to yours, or my fan was a lot louder. I heard it easily in my normal viewing position.
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I can hear the fan in my acoustically treated home theater room from 10+ feet away.

I moved the monitor to a normal room, and was able to hear it from about 4 feet away.

I can hear it while playing Witcher 3 at casual volumes, but I've also been told I have super human hearing. rolleyes.gif




I mean it's up to the person if they want to make a setup to make OLED TVs viable. I feel it's worth it, I have RL 2 friends that copied my setup after seeing it. Do what you prefer, I prefer using a TV. Even with 30" 1 foot from my face it didn't feel as immersive as a big screen 5 feet away.

The fact my monitor had an entire line of faulty pixels means it was likely physically damage and who knows what that could have affected.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/20/17 at 6:36pm
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I envy you. I wish I didn't need higher refresh rate, but I can feel the difference even between 144Hz and 165Hz lol.
In FPS, my skills are definitely better on my 165Hz monitor then on my LG E6.
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Single strobe at 60hz introduces massive flicker.

Double strobe at 60hz introduces a visible double contouring effect, a sort of ghost image behind objects and you can clearly see it. I find it really annoying.

At least double strobe at 60hz shows that the panel is capable of doing 120hz. So the future versions will likely support higher refresh rates with newer DP standards.

If you aren't allergic to 1080p*, then you two need to get yourselves a C7 purely for the native 120Hz input.


*just remember that high-end TVs have much better hardware upscalers than GPUs and monitors do, so it wouldn't look like a blurry mess



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I don't mind 60 Hz and really want to ditch LED completely, but it feels like there's too many basic issues with this monitor for the price. And I have an LG C6 right now, so I think I'm going to wait for the next revision.

Is your C6 too large for monitor use?



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Thank u for your report . How u find HDR content / HDR pictures / movies / games with this OLED Non HDR VS your 65" E6 OLED HDR ?
Is really OLED need HDR for pc gaming monitor in the future or this oled will be enough for both ( current Non HDR games and upcoming HDR games / movies ) ?
You can't do HDR on this monitor, and in my opinion HDR adds a bit too much input lag for my tastes (at least on my E6). It's probably much better on the 2017 models, which get brighter and also have less input lag overall. Only time I use HDR is for 4K Blu-ray.

Indeed; the C7 has the same 21ms of input lag regardless of whether it's displaying HDR or not:

http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag
 
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trying to understand how a build date of October 2016 somehow detracts your experience
As you already know Dell doesn't manufacture these panels themselves...dont understand how a product built months ago is used as an argument for sending it back.

No one else seems to notice excess fan noise or green tinting, not to mention yours has dead pixels so it's safe to assume it's a defect unit.

few G is no small change for most of us, so we can certainly understand why you want the best. Some of the reasons however just seems to stick out as really odd for me.
     
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Holy triple post! Anyway, I concur that 1440p is the most versatile resolution for 120Hz+ gaming given GPU and LCD refresh limitations. Finding 1440p at the right PPI for your viewing distance is the key to maximize your experience.

Not that CS:GO players would be interested in this monitor at all, but dang, those guys sit close to their monitors -- like having their eyes 6 inches away from it!
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used? who cares. who the hell would spend $1000s on a used TV. And it is one guy that just added himself to aamzon a few days ago.
I'm not sure what you are trying to prove, but you are just being silly now.

These are scams. Do not buy these TVs off eBay except from adorama et al.
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Is your C6 too large for monitor use?

Yeah, it is too large. I tried using it on my desk for a few days, but could not get used to the size. Perhaps it'd be OK for light usage, but I work on the computer for 8-10 hours a day, and looking at such a big screen all day gave me a headache.

I mounted it elsewhere and just use it for regular TV watching/gaming now. 40" is really the max I would want to go for a monitor, too bad LG has not made any smaller OLEDs.
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used? who cares. who the hell would spend $1000s on a used TV. And it is one guy that just added himself to aamzon a few days ago.
I'm not sure what you are trying to prove, but you are just being silly now.

Just want to reply to this again since you edited in the "silly" bit. It's obvious what I am trying to say. There's no reason dell should be charging $3500 for this when you can get 55-65" 4K OLED TVs for half that price. Again, the 65" LG E6 (brand new) has went on sale twice in the last couple months for ~$2200.

You are paying for the fact it's the only OLED monitor and the Dell brand name. However, OLED TVs work fine as monitors and many people are using them across the net without issues. The only way I can recommend this monitor is if someone really wants OLED and can't make a 55"-65" TV work in their setup.
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trying to understand how a build date of October 2016 somehow detracts your experience
As you already know Dell doesn't manufacture these panels themselves...dont understand how a product built months ago is used as an argument for sending it back.

No one else seems to notice excess fan noise or green tinting, not to mention yours has dead pixels so it's safe to assume it's a defect unit.

few G is no small change for most of us, so we can certainly understand why you want the best. Some of the reasons however just seems to stick out as really odd for me.

Erm? First of all there's only 3 owners in this thread and Zurv has been talking about incorrect and over saturated colors days before I got mine. It doesn't take half a year to receive a panel and assemble a monitor. These have been sitting somewhere for awhile now. I also stated I have my computer in another room, which makes my room dead silent, most people don't do this so you obviously aren't going to hear the monitor fan if you got case fans right next to you.

I shared my experiences and thoughts after seeing the monitor. Sorry for trying to be helpful I guess? Your still welcome to buy the monitor and form your own opinions. If people want to jump on me for criticizing the monitor, then I have no interest in remaining in this thread anymore. I've already boxed my monitor back up and contacted Dell anyway.
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There are more reasons. Dell OLED has DP 1.2 which allows 4:4:4 10-bit color, something the LG OLED's cannot do. Also 3-year warranty vs 1-year. And a USB-C port which will allow laptops to connect. Most high end laptops only have TB3 ports these days. And you are also forgetting the better motion clarity of the Dell strobing versus the higher MPRT of the full sample-and-hold OLED's. The MPRT of the LG is around twice as high. And of course not having to sit back 4-5 feet from a display..

I watched some native 4K video last night, the OLED quality and PPI of the Dell it looked incredible up close.
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There are more reasons. Dell OLED has DP 1.2 which allows 4:4:4 10-bit color, something the LG OLED's cannot do. Also 3-year warranty vs 1-year. And a USB-C port which will allow laptops to connect. Most high end laptops only have TB3 ports these days. And you are also forgetting the better motion clarity of the Dell strobing versus the higher MPRT of the full sample-and-hold OLED's. The MPRT of the LG is around twice as high. And of course not having to sit back 4-5 feet from a display..

I watched some native 4K video last night, the OLED quality and PPI of the Dell it looked incredible up close.

I agree OLED is the future in everything but why $3500 for pc monitor without HDR ?
I can't evaluate this monitor until i see how will be HDR content / HDR colors for Games and Movies on this OLED Non HDR ?
I want to see how will be the brightness for this OLED without HDR ?
Mass Effect Andromeda with HDR ON :-


Mass Effect Andromeda with HDR OFF :-


There is a big difference between HDR ON VS HDR OFF so i want to see how will be this OLED for White , Black and many colors ?
Is really need HDR beside this amazing OLED such as LED panel or not ?
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There are more reasons. Dell OLED has DP 1.2 which allows 4:4:4 10-bit color, something the LG OLED's cannot do. Also 3-year warranty vs 1-year. And a USB-C port which will allow laptops to connect. Most high end laptops only have TB3 ports these days. And you are also forgetting the better motion clarity of the Dell strobing versus the higher MPRT of the full sample-and-hold OLED's. The MPRT of the LG is around twice as high. And of course not having to sit back 4-5 feet from a display..

I watched some native 4K video last night, the OLED quality and PPI of the Dell it looked incredible up close.

I had the E6 and this monitor side by side, mirroring them in an FPS game and was trying to find a difference in motion clarity. Couldn't find any major differences. I'll fully admit this is probably my eyes, as I don't really see any huge gains with 60hz vs 120hz either.

In my setup, I have to use HDMI if I wish to use my external receiver with 7.2.4 audio. HDMI needs a video signal before it will send audio, so I can't just send HDMI to receiver and DP to monitor. So no 10bit for me. 10bit is more or less useless for gamers because games are 8bit, minus HDR games, which this monitor cannot do. I do wonder if the fact I was using the monitor in 8bit is the reason why I was having color issues, but I think Zurv was running it in 10bit and still having issues.

The monitor just doesn't work great in my setup. If I had a typical setup, with a normal desk that wasn't designed around using a TV, I would be using this monitor. I would have swapped the monitor out due to the dead pixels, and hoped that the next monitor had more accurate colors like yours. I'd rather just grab a 65" Sony A1E OLED instead, as about 50% of my viewing is also from a sofa for movies and it just makes more sense for my usage.
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Originally Posted by mmms View Post

I agree OLED is the future in everything but why $3500 for pc monitor without HDR ?
I can't evaluate this monitor until i see how will be HDR content / HDR colors for Games and Movies on this OLED Non HDR ?
I want to see how will be the brightness for this OLED without HDR ?
Mass Effect Andromeda with HDR ON :-


Mass Effect Andromeda with HDR OFF :-


There is a big difference between HDR ON VS HDR OFF so i want to see how will be this OLED for White , Black and many colors ?
Is really need HDR beside this amazing OLED such as LED panel or not ?

No amount of brightness is going to give the HDR effect. You need HDR to get HDR, it's very different than just increasing brightness. In my opinion, HDR isn't a deal breaker it's good but not nearly as big of a jump as LCD > OLED. It's also a massive pain in the butt to calibrate.

You can't do 4K 60hz HDR even on LG OLED TVs because the HDMI interface can't handle 4K 60hz 10bit (to my understanding, I don't have any HDR games to test), so there's really no OLED HDR option for PC yet. If you want HDR OLED @ 60fps, I suggest waiting.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/21/17 at 6:17am
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