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I don't think that is what it is saying. Even direct viewing looks bad if there is a light source behind the screen. You can look at it from an angle in a dark room with no tint. At least, that's how my LG TV is.

I hope it isn't an issue, but don't confuse the sexy LG TV Screen with what you'll find on a computer. the LG doesn't have those off angle problems, this monitor doesn't have an LG screen - these are real RGB screens. Monitors and laptops screens are Samsung screens.

If you've see any of the laptops with OLED screens you'll see the issue. At least this is purple smile.gif the other ones are green. That said, one is sitting directly in front of the PC monitor. But it would be great if had great off angle viewing. (the LG 2016 have a very slight one.. they changed the coating for the 2017 which fixed the "problem" (it wasn't very much of one.))
Edited by Zurv - 4/14/17 at 5:40pm
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I hope it isn't an issue, but don't confuse the sexy LG TV Screen with what you'll find on a computer. the LG doesn't have those off angle problems, this monitor doesn't have an LG screen - these are real RGB screens. Monitors and laptops screens are Samsung screens.

If you've see any of the laptops with OLED screens you'll see the issue. At least this is purple smile.gif the other ones are green. That said, one is sitting directly in front of the PC monitor. But it would be great if had great off angle viewing. (the LG 2016 have a very slight one.. they changed the coating for the 2017 which fixed the "problem" (it wasn't very much of one.))

Is the LG OLED not RGB? It looks like it to me.

What you describe sounds more like the purple issues on IPS panels. I've never seen that on OLED, but I haven't tried any laptops yet.
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Is the LG OLED not RGB? It looks like it to me.

What you describe sounds more like the purple issues on IPS panels. I've never seen that on OLED, but I haven't tried any laptops yet.

LG uses only white OLEDs with color filters, which solves the lifespan problem and more.
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Is the 8K confirmed to be running in "Surround" (ie tricking the GPU to think its multi-monitors)? If so that makes my decision to go for this 4K OLED much easier.

Yes, it is two panels that are 3840x4320 (?) side-by-side. This is why there are 2x cables required to run 8K @ 60Hz - this monitor does not have DSC despite having DP 1.4. If it did, it would require only one DP 1.4 cable to run that resolution @ 60Hz.

All high-end Dell monitors ran this way AFAIK from the days of Dell U3011 (which I had 3), the Dell UP2414Q (one of the first 4K IPS monitors to hit the market in 2013/2014 - again of which I had 3), and the Dell UP2715K (world's first 5K monitor released in late 2014 - which I had 2). All of these were fantastic monitors but they are indeed MST panels. The picture quality will be second to none at this PPI and resolution. The 4K OLED will be great despite the relatively "low" resolution and 60hz but it will be relegated to my 2nd rig.
     
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The OLED will have superior image quality in every single metric over the IPS panel in the 8K. The only real benefit of increasing the PPI from 147 with the OLED to 275 with the 8K would be for CAD/engineering/medical work really, needing extremely fine details when looking closely at the screen.
Edited by CallsignVega - 4/14/17 at 10:40pm
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The OLED will have superior image quality in every single metric over the IPS panel in the 8K. The only real benefit of increasing the PPI from 147 with the OLED to 275 with the 8K would be for CAD/engineering/medical work really, needing extremely fine details when looking closely at the screen.

A higher resolution image is a higher resolution image - whether that is "useful for" something is completely subjective. Gaming on the 8K panel will be far superior to a 4K image despite the latter being an OLED panel. It's not an apples to apples comparison at all. Either way, I will use both panels so I'm not going to be missing out on either.

What does concern me is that Dell has a separate 'dead-pixel policy' for the OLED panel instead of their usual policy on all Ultrasharp panels.

My OLED monitors have shipped but the 8K still hasn't. rolleyes.gif
     
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Yes, it is two panels that are 3840x4320 (?) side-by-side. This is why there are 2x cables required to run 8K @ 60Hz - this monitor does not have DSC despite having DP 1.4. If it did, it would require only one DP 1.4 cable to run that resolution @ 60Hz.

All high-end Dell monitors ran this way AFAIK from the days of Dell U3011 (which I had 3), the Dell UP2414Q (one of the first 4K IPS monitors to hit the market in 2013/2014 - again of which I had 3), and the Dell UP2715K (world's first 5K monitor released in late 2014 - which I had 2). All of these were fantastic monitors but they are indeed MST panels. The picture quality will be second to none at this PPI and resolution. The 4K OLED will be great despite the relatively "low" resolution and 60hz but it will be relegated to my 2nd rig.



Interested to hear your comparison thoughts, but I betcha prefer the Dell OLED 4k over the 8K smile.gif
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Me too. Consider the response time of oled, it will kick that 8k panel out of the water, maybe. Also ive seen increased frame times the higher resolution you go and goes against 8k panel for gaming aswell.
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You may notice the lack of advertising for HDR on this screen as well. The spec does meet some of the requirements for HDR but not all of them, if we refer to the Ultra HD Premium classification system that is. The resolution, colour depth and connectivity specs are sufficient and the colour space coverage is basically there at 97.5% DCI-P3 coverage. The peak maximum luminance is not quite high enough for those standards though, which require 540 cd/m2 instead of the available 300 cd/m2. Keep in mind though that Ultra HD Premium standards are really designed for the TV market, where a higher brightness is really a requirement. For the desktop monitor market, 540 cd/m2 is probably far too high, and the OLED panel in the UP3017Q can still delivery incredibly high contrast ratios which is really the key principle of HDR anyway.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/37.htm#dell_up3017q

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^ 300-nits indoor is already very bright...400+ sustained will give the average person eye-fatigue in "low light" ambient lighting.

Stupid question, but all modern GPUs support 10-bit colour depth?
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What does concern me is that Dell has a separate 'dead-pixel policy' for the OLED panel instead of their usual policy on all Ultrasharp panels.

care to clarify? All I see the is the usual 3-yr adv replacement like most high-end Ultrasharps.

Does OLED have phosphor trails in fast motion like plasma panels? I'm more familiar with plasma where there's no refresh rate metric as it's supposed to be infinite unlike LCD's 60,75,120,144,240Hz etc.
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