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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

The OLED will have superior image quality in every single metric over the IPS panel in the 8K. The only real benefit of increasing the PPI from 147 with the OLED to 275 with the 8K would be for CAD/engineering/medical work really, needing extremely fine details when looking closely at the screen.
Has it arrived yet? The Dell??
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A higher resolution image is a higher resolution image - whether that is "useful for" something is completely subjective. Gaming on the 8K panel will be far superior to a 4K image despite the latter being an OLED panel. It's not an apples to apples comparison at all. Either way, I will use both panels so I'm not going to be missing out on either.

What does concern me is that Dell has a separate 'dead-pixel policy' for the OLED panel instead of their usual policy on all Ultrasharp panels.

My OLED monitors have shipped but the 8K still hasn't. rolleyes.gif

Except you are comparing one metric that is already well within diminishing returns territory versus every single other objective characteristic of image quality.

147 PPI with the OLED at a normal sitting distance of 2-3 feet for games is already very clear and crisp. 8K will appear the slimmest of more clear but come with:

1. Far worse black depth.
2. Contrast ratio not even on the same planet.
3. Not as vivid colors.
4. IPS glow.
5. Back light bleed.
6. Much slower pixels, on the order of 150 times leading to harsh pixel transition trailing. The OLED with 90 μs pixel transitions will appear far clearer, something much more important for gaming than the tiniest of perceived increase in resolution.

And on top of all that you don't have to deal with all that MST BS. The 8K has it's place in certain professional areas where super detail is needed, but gaming sure isn't one of them. You will see what I am talking about when you get them side by side. wink.gif

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Has it arrived yet? The Dell??

No, Monday!
Edited by CallsignVega - 4/15/17 at 7:50am
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I have to agree with Vega on the matter and add one more thing: The GPUs needed for 8K 60hz are obviously out of this planet. So unless you want 0 gaming, 8K seems as useful as a Lamborghini in a traffic jam.

I'm never buying another LCD, that's for sure. XB271HU is my last LCD monitor ever. FALD is too expensive, and I'd rather wait for a consumer grade OLED without the silly pricetag to replace it. Not in a hurry - in 5 years, I expect OLEDs to appear (I hope?).
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Except you are comparing one metric that is already well within diminishing returns territory versus every single other objective characteristic of imagine quality.

147 PPI with the OLED at a normal sitting distance of 2-3 feet for games is already very clear and crisp. 8K will appear the slimmest of more clear but come with:

1. Far worse black depth.
2. Contrast ratio not even on the same planet.
3. Not as vivid colors.
4. IPS glow.
5. Back light bleed.
6. Much slower pixels, on the order of 150 times leading to harsh pixel transition trailing. The OLED with 90 μs pixel transitions will appear far clearer, something much more important for gaming than the tiniest of perceived increase in resolution.

And on top of all that you don't have to deal with all that MST BS. The 8K has it's place in certain professional areas where super detail is needed, but gaming sure isn't one of them. You will see what I am talking about when you get them side by side. wink.gif
No, Monday!
You always buy the latest greatest- compensating?
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You always buy the latest greatest- compensating?

Or maybe, you know, he's an enthusiast rolleyes.gif
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You always buy the latest greatest- compensating?

wut
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How will this monitor look without HDR10 ?
Is this monitor worth it than VA + HDR10 ?
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How will this monitor look without HDR10 ?
Is this monitor worth it than VA + HDR10 ?

No blooming/haloing or unnecessarily dimmed parts of the screen on this monitor, but reduced peak brightness compared to an HDR display in HDR content. Going from a dark room to a light area for example won't be blinding on this.

We need to see how input lag is on this monitor, along with other things. I suppose we'll see on Monday thanks to CallsignVega. But this is $3500, if you are limited to a monitor then I would wait for the Acer Predator XB272-HDR and ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ.
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No blooming/haloing or unnecessarily dimmed parts of the screen on this monitor, but reduced peak brightness compared to an HDR display in HDR content. Going from a dark room to a light area for example won't be blinding on this.

We need to see how input lag is on this monitor, along with other things. I suppose we'll see on Monday thanks to CallsignVega. But this is $3500, if you are limited to a monitor then I would wait for the Acer Predator XB272-HDR and ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ.

I understand from your words if i can get this OLED , I won't need VA / IPS + FALD + HDR10 .
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Indeed OLED >>> FALD. HDR is often included in OLED TVs, so there's no reason why in a couple of years we couldn't see 27-32 inch OLED monitors with HDR. I'm glad Dell sells this, it's obviously out of my range but other manufacturers may want to compete now that someone made the 1st OLED monitor.
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