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I am not sure wether I want to go for an Amd Ryzen 1600 or 1600x.
I am going to keep using my Alpenföhn Matterhorn White for a while, so cooling should be fine and I wonder how the differences in overclocking would turn out to be?
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I am not sure wether I want to go for an Amd Ryzen 1600 or 1600x.
I am going to keep using my Alpenföhn Matterhorn White for a while, so cooling should be fine and I wonder how the differences in overclocking would turn out to be?

1600X has XFR, while 1600 does not, I would count on the difference being substantial. Go for the X, IMO.
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That's not true as far as I know. The 1600 also has XFR.
My real question in the end is: How far does the 1600x overclock and how far can I get the normal 1600?
Edited by ZippyO - 4/13/17 at 4:08am
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That's not true as far as I know. The 1600 also has XFR.
My real question in the end is: How far does the 1600x overclock and how far can I get the normal 1600?

http://products.amd.com/en-us/compare?prod1=149&type1=CPU&prod2=150&type2=CPU&prod3=151&type3=CPU&prod4=152&type4=CPU

Non-X CPUs don't have XFR. That's what the "X" denotes. At least that's the official info. If there is some way to "hack" around the limitation, that's a whole other deal.
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How much money do you save going with nonX ?
Overclocking pretty much is the same for all Ryzen chips.
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How much money do you save going with nonX ?
Overclocking pretty much is the same for all Ryzen chips.

Not very much. 1600X = $249.99 and the 1600 is $219.99.

I'd personally get the 1600X.
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If you use jet.com you can get the 1600 or the 1400 for 15% off using the code TRIPLE15 for your first 3 purchases. I got my 1600 for 173.20.
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http://products.amd.com/en-us/compare?prod1=149&type1=CPU&prod2=150&type2=CPU&prod3=151&type3=CPU&prod4=152&type4=CPU

Non-X CPUs don't have XFR. That's what the "X" denotes. At least that's the official info. If there is some way to "hack" around the limitation, that's a whole other deal.

This is incorrect. All models support Extended Frequency Range.

"X" models indicate a higher XFR Range, yes, but all models support XFR.

Slide 11:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By7_TCzoyL9oejlBV1R0WVdKMkU/view

Edit: I should also give the OP my recommendation haha. I recommend the 1600 if you're going to manually overclock, since nearly all Ryzen chips have a 3.9GHz OC ceiling.
    
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This is incorrect. All models support Extended Frequency Range.

"X" models indicate a higher XFR Range, yes, but all models support XFR.

Slide 11:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By7_TCzoyL9oejlBV1R0WVdKMkU/view

Edit: I should also give the OP my recommendation haha. I recommend the 1600 if you're going to manually overclock, since nearly all Ryzen chips have a 3.9GHz OC ceiling.

You are using a pre-release marketing PowerPoint to argue the official post-release spec sheet that says "XFR Support: NO"? You may be right, but we definitely NEED something way more solid than what you've posted.
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You are using a pre-release marketing PowerPoint to argue the official post-release spec sheet that says "XFR Support: NO"? You may be right, but we definitely NEED something way more solid than what you've posted.

Why didn't you link the "Official post release spec sheet" then?

Tons of users have countered what you're saying. This may be more appropriate for you:

https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/03/08/amd-ryzen-7-1700-review/1

Edit: Honestly, just ask anyone with a 1700 and HWiNFO installed.
Edited by LuckyImperial - 4/13/17 at 3:37pm
    
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