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Rx480 to rx580 is not worthy upgrade. Same feeling I have from 7870 to 280x.

I usually upgrade midrange cards every new series. I started from 560ti, to 7870 then purposedly skip 280x (because that's not really midrange card) then to 380x and now rx480. But I would skip rx580 for sure.

But the rx480 is not even 1 years old and the 580 is not for you.

Vega is coming and if you want an upgrade get a vega.

Also a nvidia gpu over a 1060 is an upgrade for you.
Edited by sugarhell - 4/15/17 at 2:13pm
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post #172 of 246
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But the rx480 is not even 1 years old and the 580 is not for you.

Vega is coming and if you want an upgrade get a vega.

Also a nvidia gpu over a 1060 is an upgrade for you.

I am gonna sit on my FuryX as long as I need to. Aint paying these prices Nvidia and AMD want me to pay. $250 for a midrange.... You cray AMD & Nvidia??? kookoo.gif
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I am gonna sit on my FuryX as long as I need to. Aint paying these prices Nvidia and AMD want me to pay. $250 for a midrange.... You cray AMD & Nvidia??? kookoo.gif

What's wrong with 250 for midrange?
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post #174 of 246
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What's wrong with 250 for midrange?

The problem I think is these are coming at the launch pricing of the rx480.

If this was an new GPU and with entire new performance, maybe 250 would have been acceptable.

But if you didn't want to buy an rx480 a year ago for $240 or the $200-160 people have been able to pay with the price drops, an rx 580 with 8% more performance 1 year later not going to move the dial for most people and is thus just a let down from AMD.

Considering this is a rebrand which is cheaper for AMD to make, this card should be coming at a cheaper price like every prior rebrand. Coming at the same initial MSRP price is pretty terrible as far as expectations go for the GPU industry. There hasn't been any time in history as far as GPU where a rebrand came with the same initial pricing as it's predecessor. Rebrands always came out faster and priced lower.

Nvidia barely has to do anything to stop AMD sales. Dropping the gtx 1070 to $300 would do it as would dropping the gtx 1060 pricing to $200.

With AMD not being aggressive about the pricing of these cards, it lowers the bar as far as price/ performance for Vega too. If vega performs like a gtx 1080 ti, forget about 550 dollar pricing as that would basically be linears price to performance with these cards. Expect $700 pricing.
Edited by tajoh111 - 4/15/17 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by Kuivamaa View Post

What's wrong with 250 for midrange?

Not a good price. $220 got top end would be ok.
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A 580 isn't going to be a worthy upgrade over my 290x by a long shot (unless it was $50.00), especially at 1440p+ or if you like AA as with even a remotely decent oc a 290x will be faster at those resolutions.

970 has definitely seen better days at this point, though. Still probably wouldn't upgrade to a 580 from it.

I disagree if these rumored stock clocks are accurate. A 1500+ MHz 580 would wreck a 290X at 1440p IMO as Polaris is typically strong at higher resolutions just like all AMD cards have been over the past few years.
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I disagree if these rumored stock clocks are accurate. A 1500+ MHz 580 would wreck a 290X at 1440p IMO as Polaris is typically strong at higher resolutions just like all AMD cards have been over the past few years.
stock clocks are jst 80mhz higher than stock 480, OC is not gonna be any different, so 1500mhz avg is not likely
and a 1400mhz (480 avg OC) is not gonna beat a 1200/1600 290X, not in a million years
post #178 of 246
I agree its unlikely that the 580's will average over 1500MHz but that's the qualifier I used when making the statement about it being a solid release. Again, IF the 580's do over 1500MHz they will be faster than even highly clocked 290X's...
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I agree its unlikely that the 580's will average over 1500MHz but that's the qualifier I used when making the statement about it being a solid release. Again, IF the 580's do over 1500MHz they will be faster than even highly clocked 290X's...
Polaris scaling with clocks are horrible, I've seen a 1450mhz 480 only gained 3-5% performance vs stock, that's 3-5% fps for 14% clock bump
Hawaii is a different story though, my 290 got a near 15% fps bump for a 15% OC
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The 480 was not really a successor for the 290X though and it is cheaper brand new than you can still get most 290X's right now. The fact that it is on par (and faster in some cases) is pretty good for a $200 mid range card. And IF the 580's OC better than the 480's they will even be better value.
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