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Even the HD 7970 GHz Edition was launched at a lower price than the 7970. The 280X MSRP was cheaper than the GHz Edition.

Think this is the first time AMD is launching a rebrand at the same MSRP as the original. Which is pretty disapointing considering that they moved over to a cheaper node and are still not incorporating GDDR5X...
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Even the HD 7970 GHz Edition was launched at a lower price than the 7970. The 280X MSRP was cheaper than the GHz Edition.

Think this is the first time AMD is launching a rebrand at the same MSRP as the original. Which is pretty disapointing considering that they moved over to a cheaper node and are still not incorporating GDDR5X...

This. Totally nothing new at all. Rebrands are usually cheaper but disappointing it's the same MSRP as the original in this case. Totally no incentive at all for 290 and below to upgrade.

May as well have overclocked the 480 and called it 580.rolleyes.gif
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"Except i do not want AIO cooling, like me. And i've geared my system towards air cooling with taking up all fan slots and thus, no more space to mount an AIO cooler. Neither do i want to sacrifice performance at the price i am paying by accepting a cut down Fury X/Vega X for some infinitely stupid reason to lock the cooling solution to AIO only.
AIO only is just going to lock out potential sales and an untapped market out there."

(sorry for the odd quoting)

You DO realize that a 120mm rad and fan STILL push air in or out of your system right? You can easily sacrifice a rear exhaust or something for a good AIO cooler and still have perfectly fine airflow.

I cannot fathom the user who would look at a higher end performing card, be fine with the price, but not sacrifice ONE 120mm fan mount for an unarguably better cooling solution that a dual slot blower. Possibly in a smaller midtower with CFX. Or a silent build, though even then the blower would be considerably louder.

Heck, in a P/P config you'd probably be intaking/venting MORE air than a single fan config.
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"Except i do not want AIO cooling, like me. And i've geared my system towards air cooling with taking up all fan slots and thus, no more space to mount an AIO cooler. Neither do i want to sacrifice performance at the price i am paying by accepting a cut down Fury X/Vega X for some infinitely stupid reason to lock the cooling solution to AIO only.
AIO only is just going to lock out potential sales and an untapped market out there."

(sorry for the odd quoting)

You DO realize that a 120mm rad and fan STILL push air in or out of your system right? You can easily sacrifice a rear exhaust or something for a good AIO cooler and still have perfectly fine airflow.

I cannot fathom the user who would look at a higher end performing card, be fine with the price, but not sacrifice ONE 120mm fan mount for an unarguably better cooling solution that a dual slot blower. Possibly in a smaller midtower with CFX. Or a silent build, though even then the blower would be considerably louder.

Heck, in a P/P config you'd probably be intaking/venting MORE air than a single fan config.

Why would i sacrifice a 140mm better performing rear exhaust or the rest of my 200mm slots for a 120?rolleyes.gif And what happens if Vega lives up to its expectations and i snap up two of them for crossfire? Pray tell me where can i have space for 120x2 AIO fans and rads, assuming if i even wanted to accept the AIOs?

Sorry, as far as i am concerned on the matter, AIO is asinine , especially if Vega only comes with those only like it did with Fury X. It should have a custom air cooler option like 580s or the Tis have.
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A 1500+ MHz 580 would wreck a 290X at 1440p IMO

Depends on the game.

It's going to have a significant edge in shader performance and texture fill rate, but a 1500MHz RX580 is still going to fall significantly short of a stock, reference 290X in pixel fill rate, and improved compression isn't going to make up for all of the difference.

Since we know how polaris performs, and the RX 580 is simply a higher clocked part (making it's performance easy to extrapolate), I don't think I'd call the RX 580 a worthy upgrade over a 290X either. It will beat the 290X in most games, but not enough to be a compelling upgrade.
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Hopefully a 8GB 580 at $199 could kill a 1060 6GB....so they drop the prices to $199 too

I want a new card, but $250 for a 1060 is just too much.

You won't be getting an 8GB 580 for $200 anytime soon.
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lol they used the 380 for comparison with 480 too
it's a rebrand, so we'll have to cut them some slack rolleyes.gif
We should only cut them slack if its msrp is lower than 470/480 which its not. If it was $149 and $199 for 470 and 480 respectively,this would be a great launch.At $180 and $240,this is artificially increasing the prices back to its original msrp for the same product.
    
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You won't be getting an 8GB 580 for $200 anytime soon.
We should only cut them slack if its msrp is lower than 470/480 which its not. If it was $149 and $199 for 470 and 480 respectively,this would be a great launch.At $180 and $240,this is artificially increasing the prices back to its original msrp for the same product.
yeah last time they refresh Hawaii they atleast tune the power efficiency a bit, and gave us 4 more GB, this time it's just lazy and sad
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yeah last time they refresh Hawaii they atleast tune the power efficiency a bit, and gave us 4 more GB, this time it's just lazy and sad

The Polaris 'refresh' is more significant than the Hawaii -> Grenada rebrand.
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yeah last time they refresh Hawaii they atleast tune the power efficiency a bit, and gave us 4 more GB, this time it's just lazy and sad

The Polaris 'refresh' is more significant than the Hawaii -> Grenada rebrand.

Morover 7970 to 280x is much worse rebrand.
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