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Drop my cosmo bunker and wcg zika bunker.

I will pull the lappy out and get my 2nd rig going. Pulled my bench out, maybe I can find a spot to get the X79 up (maybe).
     
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Interesting goings on with Zikka...

I have cosmo and zikka queued up with days of reserve on 3 machines. Both are set to 100%, but the machine is set to switch tasks eveyr 120 minutes. Last night "show all tasks" showed zikka waiting while cosmo ran and vice versa.

Now all three are 100% on cosmo?

It's like the zikka is waiting for something, but "update" says "job cache full" from WCG... Overall work-done is getting pretty lop-sided, wondering if I need to suspend cosmo on some machines?

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I got 64 threads working on Cosmo right now. 1/2 Windows, 1/2 Linux. Trying to see which is faster. Don't have enough data points to really conclude anything. Looks about the same, really. times are all over the place, but seem to be a mean of 35-45k seconds. Trying out a couple 32bit VMs, but they seem slower, got mosts WUs as high as 80k secs, so it seems like I'll abandon that idea.

Argh...I realized I probably did a noob mistake, but I'll have to check after I get home..I may be trying to run 48 threads on a 32 thread machine...or maybe the VM is just that slow.
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Interesting goings on with Zikka...

I have cosmo and zikka queued up with days of reserve on 3 machines. Both are set to 100%, but the machine is set to switch tasks eveyr 120 minutes. Last night "show all tasks" showed zikka waiting while cosmo ran and vice versa.

Now all three are 100% on cosmo?

It's like the zikka is waiting for something, but "update" says "job cache full" from WCG... Overall work-done is getting pretty lop-sided, wondering if I need to suspend cosmo on some machines?


Cosmology is multi threaded, so I suspect the BOINC Manager is simply running Zika for a while, and then switching over to Cosmology. Over time it usually fully balances itself out based upon amount of time crunched.
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Argh...I realized I probably did a noob mistake, but I'll have to check after I get home..I may be trying to run 48 threads on a 32 thread machine...or maybe the VM is just that slow.

That's fine. I ran several 32 threaded clients on my 2p machine. They all just run slower. Depending on the OS and how it gives thread priority some may get more than their share and others hardly nothing. Linux splits it pretty evenly.
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Cosmology is multi threaded, so I suspect the BOINC Manager is simply running Zika for a while, and then switching over to Cosmology. Over time it usually fully balances itself out based upon amount of time crunched.
Seems to be so heavily skewed to cosmo that its not running zikka often (see the point totals).

So, for now, I'm manually switching one 56 thread machine over to zikka exclusively. I already had some smaller machines runnign zikka exclusively, but this should help balance it out for now.
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Cosmology is multi threaded, so I suspect the BOINC Manager is simply running Zika for a while, and then switching over to Cosmology. Over time it usually fully balances itself out based upon amount of time crunched.
Seems to be so heavily skewed to cosmo that its not running zikka often (see the point totals).

So, for now, I'm manually switching one 56 thread machine over to zikka exclusively. I already had some smaller machines runnign zikka exclusively, but this should help balance it out for now.

 

It can take awhile for things to balance out when running multiple projects.  For a short term competition, it is easier to manage multiple machines by only running a single project on the machine.  This is especially true with the multi-threaded work, since the BOINC code was not originally designed to distribute multi-threaded work loads.

 

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BM can only balance the time, not the points and is over long periods does it balance out as mentioned. Otherwise it can be quite stupid until deadline dates are matched between projects. I've seen it stop WUs 90%+ completed. Like just let the dang thing finish in a few minutes instead of interrupting it. Adding another project in with another really messed up the balance for awhile.
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OCN dropped to 4th as S.USA jumped us in Cosmo.
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That's fine. I ran several 32 threaded clients on my 2p machine. They all just run slower. Depending on the OS and how it gives thread priority some may get more than their share and others hardly nothing. Linux splits it pretty evenly.

Yea, I'm running 2 x86 Ubuntu VMs on x64 Ubuntu. I am kind of thinking I set it use 50% of the CPUs since I was running 2 8 thread VMs. BTW, do I need to reinstall Ubuntu if I wanted more than 8 threads? If I set it to something 10 or 12, the VM seems to hang on boot. My thought was that if the project ran better on the VM, then I'd move the

I am running a 3rd x86 Linux VM on my Win10 box. So far it hasn't returned anything. mad.gif So I can't tell, but I am sure I set the machine back to 75% since I am just running one 8 thread VM.
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