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Hello, guys!

 

I have fallen in love with Microsoft 1.1A (overall feeling), but I am not satisfied with its debounce time and low PCS.

Do you know of any alternatives which are under 85g, have almost identical shape, low debounce time and a decent sensor? I have tried ZA13, but the sides on it are a little bit slippery for me, as they are a bit (__)-like, compared to Microsoft's |__|-like.

 

Any suggestions? I appreaciate any help

post #2 of 22

Just for clarity for those who can give you the answer, do you mean the Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical, or the Microsoft Intellimouse Optical? "Microsoft 1.1A" doesn't refer to just 1 mouse. "1.1A" is the OEM variant of both the WMO and IMO.

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post #3 of 22
The fact that he said |_| and (_) suggests he's talking about the MWO, I think.
post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by m4nta View Post

The fact that he said |_| and (_) suggests he's talking about the MWO, I think.


No. I have the IMO (I'm using it right now), and it's somewhat the same as that.

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post #5 of 22
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Any suggestions? I appreaciate any help
Overclock it to 1000hz
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Overclock it to 1000hz

 

I doubt that will fix the debounce time and the "low PCS", whatever "low PCS" is.

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post #7 of 22
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I doubt that will fix the debounce time and the "low PCS", whatever "low PCS" is.

Low perfect control speed...? It negative accelerates at 1.5m/s because it can only report 128 counts in either direction due to 8 bit datapath.
    
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post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I doubt that will fix the debounce time and the "low PCS", whatever "low PCS" is.
Partially solves. Increase from 1m/s to 1.5m/s. After 1.5 starts neg accel without spinouts
Edited by AloneInTheDuck - 4/15/17 at 2:08am
post #9 of 22
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Partially solves. Increase from 1m/s to 1.5m/s. After 1.5 starts neg accel without spinouts

 

I never had any problems with my IMO before I set the USB polling rate to 1000Hz. I only did it because I can.

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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I never had any problems with my IMO before I set the USB polling rate to 1000Hz. I only did it because I can.

I can make my WMO neg accel on desktop at 125(+)Hz, and I can make the Kinzu (also has a 1.5m/s neg accel speed) stop tracking on the desktop, so you must not move your mouse very quickly. tongue.gif
    
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