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i used some black RTV to cover the capacitors on my 4790K.

Also, i don't advise using the EK Naked ivy kit. My temps were good at first, but since the mounting pressure was all on the die, the pcb began to warp slightly and temps got worse. Went back to using the heat spreader and all is good now. Pretty sure i needed some "delid die guard" but all i could find was one from alibaba for $30 and i don't trust that site for some overpriced piece of plastic that may or may not solve a problem that would 100% be fixed for free going back to using the IHS.

i know you didn't mention anything about naked ivy kit, that was more of just a PSA for all the delided 4790k folks.
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i used some black RTV to cover the capacitors on my 4790K.

Also, i don't advise using the EK Naked ivy kit. My temps were good at first, but since the mounting pressure was all on the die, the pcb began to warp slightly and temps got worse. Went back to using the heat spreader and all is good now. Pretty sure i needed some "delid die guard" but all i could find was one from alibaba for $30 and i don't trust that site for some overpriced piece of plastic that may or may not solve a problem that would 100% be fixed for free going back to using the IHS.

i know you didn't mention anything about naked ivy kit, that was more of just a PSA for all the delided 4790k folks.

oh no i dont want to use that. My plan is to insulate the resistors then apply CLU and drop the CPU in the socket with the heatspreader being held in place with the CPU bracket. there is a 99% chance i will drop the CPU in the socket and then never bother with it again for years like i did with my 3570K system i dropped it in and haven't messed with it since 2014
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Originally Posted by philhalo66 View Post

oh no i dont want to use that. My plan is to insulate the resistors then apply CLU and drop the CPU in the socket with the heatspreader being held in place with the CPU bracket.

yep that's definitely the way to do it. You don't get quite the temp drops the kaby lake guys get but its still pretty nice. I only wish my chip was a better clocker. I used to run it 4.7@1.35V but now she's at 4.6@1.3V. The 100MHz difference doesn't make much difference in real world and i'll take the lower heat/power/longevity of 1.3V as i'll probably have this CPU for a while.
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yep that's definitely the way to do it. You don't get quite the temp drops the kaby lake guys get but its still pretty nice. I only wish my chip was a better clocker. I used to run it 4.7@1.35V but now she's at 4.6@1.3V. The 100MHz difference doesn't make much difference in real world and i'll take the lower heat/power/longevity of 1.3V as i'll probably have this CPU for a while.

Guy i got it from said on his setup he was loading at 50-55C at 4.7 with 1.27V i'll probably push for 4.8 and be done with it. with my H100i im hoping to stay under 65C at 4.8. 5GHz would be nice but im not expecting to get that. My ASRock board gets here Tuesday so hopefully everything goes smoothly.
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If you want to be totally sure that it is going to be safe, try using liquid electrical tape. It's 100% assured, unlike nail polish.



Try Home Depot or any hardware store. It's not too expensive. I think Amazon also has some.

The whole point is to apply something that insulates the FIVR as to prevent a short circuit in the event that the CLU or any liquid metal gets onto the FIVR so having liquid electrical tape is 100% unlike nail polish.


Also, if you have not purchased the CLU, the Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut is a stronger paste.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/liquid-metal-showdown-thermal-grizzly-conductonaut-vs-cool-laboratory-liquid-ultra-pro.791489/


Edit: IMO it's worth spending $5-6 on some liquid electrical tape as to be 100% that you won't fry a $300 CPU. Besides, you can use the rest of the liquid electrical tape elsewhere.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philhalo66 View Post

I have been told to make sure and insulate the capacitors under the IHS by using clear nail polish, i have some but im not sure if its acrylic or not. is there an easy way to tell?

Don't use nail polish... Use liquid electrical tape!
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My favorite new thing is Liquid electrical Tape!!!

For those that want significantly better thermals on air and don't want to bother with water.

Consider running liquid metal. It's not nearly as scary as people make it out to be. Unless you have shaky hands from Parkinson's or similar ofcorse.

Just flood the area around the GPU die with higher temp liquid tape and go to town. This will drastically lower your temps as it's nearly as good as solder in terms of thermal transfer and will drop your temps significantly.

When you're done with the card, just wipe it off carefully and peel off the tape.

He're how my old 1080 and Titan X Maxwell before it cleaned up after I was done with em. You can literally flood the area surrounding the socket with liquid electrical tape to ward off shorts and peel it off when done. Same with the Shunt mod frankly.

One can always practice on old useless hardware first if scurrd....



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Don't use nail polish... Use liquid electrical tape!
I'll grab some and give it a shot. i hear that stuff is easy to remove so worst case is i need to remove it.
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I actually saw a post on extreme systems recommending to coat them with Arctic silver ceramic. I have a 30g tube. It's 100% on conductive super thick and it's easy to clean if i ever need to remove it. My understanding is the risk of CLU shorting them out is when you apply it and when you move the IHS so once its in the socket i wont ever need to worry.
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