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After numerous thanks about a post I made in a news thread, I figured I might as well write this out as a guide.

Doing a fresh Windows install can be a pain, mainly because of updates. There are a couple of great tools to make your life a lot easier. Tools I will be discussing in this guide are:

WSUS Offline Updater, a automated Windows Update installer that works a lot faster and doesn't require an internet connection.

Snappy Driver Installer (SDI), an opensource automated driver installer that works with an offline driver database. Must have when regularly installing systems with different hardware. Unlike most of the similar tools on the market, this one is free, open source, not bloated and doesn't brick your system.

Ninite Automated installer for many programs, including: Chrome, Firefox, VLC, codecs, ... Just check the boxes for which programs you want to install. Ninite checks versions of already installed programs and updates where needed - all bloatware free!


WSUS Offline Updater
Downloading Updates
This program allows for automated Windows OS and Office Suite installation. It even automates your reboots when that's required. The program comes as an archive that just needs to be extracted, no installation. I HIGHLY recommend extracting the archive to either: a non-boot partition, a NAS or an external drive because you ideally download the updates before your do a clean install. After extracting the archive, run the "UpdateGenerator.exe" and you will be presented with the following screen:




Select this OS'es and Office versions you want updates for, also check the boxes I checked:
Verify Downloads (speaks for itself)
Include C++ Runtime Libraries and .NET frameworks (if not, you'll have to install them manually later - they are required for a lot of software)
Include Microsoft Security essentials (not really necessary, but it doesn't do any harm - I highly recommend installing a decent AV after installation)
Include Service Packs (speaks for itself)
Use "security only updates" instead of "quality rollups" (Important if you want to keep nasty updates out)
Include Windows Defender Definitions (speaks for itself)

I do NOT recommend using the ISO/USB options because you'll have to recreate the image every time you updates your offline updates library. Instead, just run the UpdateInstaller.exe in the /client/ subfolder.

Hit the start button and WSUS Offline Updater will start downloading all required updates for you.

Installing Updates

To install the updates on a system, open the /client/ subfolder and run the UpdateInstaller.exe. You will be presented with the following screen:


The checkboxes speak for themselves. When checking the "automated reboot and recall" option, you'll be presented with a UAC warning. WSUS needs to create a temporary user and disable the UAC in order to automated the process. If you want this, you can use leave the box unchecked and to manual reboots. Beware that you will be booting into a temporary user when the updates are automated - meaning you can't access your personal user account.

In the case of Windows 7 I also highly recommend the following: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Manually install these packages first:
KB3020369
KB3172605
KB3125574

If not, WSUS will take multiple hours to get them installed. Blame Microsoft for crippling the Windows 7 update process mad.gif

And then run this code (though a bat file):
Code:
@echo off
:: Created by: Shawn Brink
:: http://www.sevenforums.com
:: Tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/91738-windows-update-reset.html


set w=0
:wuauserv
set /a w=%w%+1
if %w% equ 3 (
   goto end
) 
net stop wuauserv
echo Checking the wuauserv service status.
sc query wuauserv | findstr /I /C:"STOPPED" 
if not %errorlevel%==0 ( 
    goto wuauserv 
)
goto Reset

:end
cls
echo.
echo Failed to reset Windows Update history due to wuauserv service failing to stop.
echo.
pause
goto Start

:Reset 
if exist "%SYSTEMROOT%\SoftwareDistribution.bak" rmdir /s /q "%SYSTEMROOT%\SoftwareDistribution.bak"
if exist "%SYSTEMROOT%\SoftwareDistribution" ( 
    attrib -r -s -h /s /d "%SYSTEMROOT%\SoftwareDistribution" 
    ren "%SYSTEMROOT%\SoftwareDistribution" SoftwareDistribution.bak 
) 

if exist "%SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log.bak" del /s /q /f "%SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log.bak" 
if exist "%SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log" ( 
    attrib -r -s -h /s /d "%SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log" 
    ren "%SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log" WindowsUpdate.log.bak 
) 
 
regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll 
regsvr32 /s wuaueng1.dll 
regsvr32 /s atl.dll 
regsvr32 /s wups.dll 
regsvr32 /s wups2.dll 
regsvr32 /s wuweb.dll 
regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll 

:Start
net start wuauserv


This speeds up the process a lot.

That's it, you're set! I've had a guy PM me that this also got him around an Update breaking his Windows 8.1 installation. If you ever have problems with Windows Updates, try WSUS Offline Updater thumb.gif If you're a professional user that uses this to install systems for clients, consider donating to the developers. They do this for free and they've done hella good job!

Snappy Driver Installer
A tool for automating driver installation. The interface is a bit old fashioned, but it works great.
Considering it also downloads big driver catalogs (10GB+ in total) I also highly recommend running this from an external source like a NAS if you're using it for multiple systems. As of now, you need to update the entire driver pack every time some drivers are updated, which is not how I would prefer it, but it's still a great tool.

The driver packs are downloaded trough a built-in torrent system (which is understandable, considering the tool is free and the required bandwidth for all it's users is huge).

The interface is straight forward, so I won't be going into a lot of details. I do recommend making a restore point (you should be doing this anyway when installing drivers). SDI can do this for you.

Even if you don't want to install the drivers with SDI, it's still a nice tool to keep track of your installed drivers as it shows you which ones are outdated.

Ninite
Not open source, but still free. It automatically installs a whole range of tools, without the bloatware. Already have a program installed? Ninite checks if it's up-to-date and will update if for you if not.

Notable programs include:
  • Browsers
  • Big AV's
  • Steam
  • VLC
  • Codec packs
  • Lots of open source tools including: Filezilla, qBitTorrent, ...


I hope this guide made your Windows installation and updating less of a pain. Share it with friends and family to easy the pains Microsoft has bestowed upon us thumb.gif
Edited by xioros - 4/16/17 at 2:33am
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Bookmarked this, thanks. WSUS has saved my life. Creators update broke Nvidia control panel high refresh gaming, going back to Win 8.1 with WSUS has been heaven, thanks again for all your help man. I forgot how much better Win 8.1 is, just had to uninstall News, Weather, a few other things, but boy she is smooth flying, running anti beacon with a schedule task as well, updates off, etc. Just played a couple games, think I am getting higher frames than before too, lulz Win 10 is so bloated.

All I do is game, so I ended up not needing Snappy program, everything is running smooth as butter at 100hz 100 fps in Witcher 3 on high settings, no drops, thanks again!
    
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Just an update, I was still getting that pop up for having kaby lake unsupported error because of this update:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4015547/windows-8-1-windows-server-2012-r2-update-kb4015547

So I uninstalled that, and in a few months when I go to update, I will not use WSUS, I will use traditional way (but select download only don't install, then I will hide that update so windows update can not scan my system for hardware changes) hopefully it works, probably will, M$ is dumb as crap like that, but WSUS is the best way to start it all up on a clean install, very efficient and fast. biggrin.gif
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Just an update, I was still getting that pop up for having kaby lake unsupported error because of this update:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4015547/windows-8-1-windows-server-2012-r2-update-kb4015547

So I uninstalled that, and in a few months when I go to update, I will not use WSUS, I will use traditional way (but select download only don't install, then I will hide that update so windows update can not scan my system for hardware changes) hopefully it works, probably will, M$ is dumb as crap like that, but WSUS is the best way to start it all up on a clean install, very efficient and fast. biggrin.gif

Check the WSUS Offline Updater website. I think it's possible to blacklist some updates.
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Check the WSUS Offline Updater website. I think it's possible to blacklist some updates.

roger roger Will do so in a month or two, for now I am sitting solid with the latest updates (up to that recent kaby lake banhammer one) biggrin.gif
    
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How do I install .net framework 2.5 and 3.0? I need it to play batman arkham, other than that this little voodoo has been working fine lol
    
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I just ran WSUS again and checked include .net framework 3.5, I watch the command prompt, when it comes down to the auto install of that framework it says unable to enable, then it moves on to next update, everything else works fine but that...

and everytime I try to install .netframework 3.5 manually i get error saying kaby lake not supported so unable to connect to updates. bah, everything works perfect, if i could just figure out a way to get that framework installed everything would work great. M$ is dumb as hell for not including this in original OS install of either win 8 or 10... sigh so much stuff uses it
    
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Check the WSUS Offline Updater website. I think it's possible to blacklist some updates.

roger roger Will do so in a month or two, for now I am sitting solid with the latest updates (up to that recent kaby lake banhammer one) biggrin.gif

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Also: if you have any suggestions on how to improve or extend this guide, please leave them below thumb.gif

How do I install .net framework 2.5 and 3.0? I need it to play batman arkham, other than that this little voodoo has been working fine lol

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I just ran WSUS again and checked include .net framework 3.5, I watch the command prompt, when it comes down to the auto install of that framework it says unable to enable, then it moves on to next update, everything else works fine but that...

and everytime I try to install .netframework 3.5 manually i get error saying kaby lake not supported so unable to connect to updates. bah, everything works perfect, if i could just figure out a way to get that framework installed everything would work great. M$ is dumb as hell for not including this in original OS install of either win 8 or 10... sigh so much stuff uses it

Try editing your post, instead of adding an other one. Keeps the thread tidy.

On the .net framework, installing the most recent version (4.6.2) should work. Try with the Ninite installer.
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Did not work, even after reboot ; ;

M$ has won, I give up on life, farewell world ~
    
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5TB Seagate 2.5" 5400RPM Grizzly Conductonaut on GPU and CPU Win 8.1 WSUS ;) 17.3" 1080p IPS oc'd 100hz GSYNC 
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