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AMD cant win even if they have the better and faster product sadly. The ones at fault are uninformed consumers.


Do you recall the last time AMD had a successful product launch?
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Do you recall the last time Reddit didn't find some nonexistant/irrelevant issue on an AMD product and made an IMMENSE deal about it?

 

Because I don't.

   
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This is why Nvidia is on Top. You can see GTX1060 selling 2 times more but 5x more? If you look back same thing with GTX960, 760, 660, 560, 460, 250, etc etc. AMD cant win even if they have the better and faster product sadly. The ones at fault are uninformed consumers.

Heck they are still selling more 970s than amd is selling of 480s. There's nothing neck to neck about that. It's just consumer ignorance.
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Heck they are still selling more 970s than amd is selling of 480s. There's nothing neck to neck about that. It's just consumer ignorance.

Latest Video by AdoreTV

This guy is a GOD. I hope he has an effect in the Industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUTa8_L8L0&t=900s
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Latest Video by AdoreTV

This guy is a GOD. I hope he has an effect in the Industry.

]

Ikr, but Noooo, ppl brands him as a bias die hard fanboy without even watch a whole of his video
I hope stupid ppl have to buy a 1000$ mid range when AMD goes bankrupt
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Ikr, but Noooo, ppl brands him as a bias die hard fanboy without even watch a whole of his video
I hope stupid ppl have to buy a 1000$ mid range when AMD goes bankrupt

He is no AMD fanboy. He just is painting the picture of how things and and why they are this way and this makes Nvidia look like the bad guy. Same has him I too fell for the Nvidia GPU back in the day not knowing what I was getting. As soon as I learned a thing or two about review sites I would than buy the right product and support the side that does the Innovation.
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Lol, yeah.

I mean, the only card that gets anywhere close to having an alright P/P in the high end segment is the GTX 1070... And it's priced to the moon, way above its actual price point if there was an AMD equivalent out.

Under normal circumstances the 1070 should be a 300 USD card at the very most.

If the 1070 was priced at 300 dollars initially when yields were at their worst, AMD would have filed a complaint Nvidia for predatory pricing. Nvidia would be losing a big portion of their profit and more importantly, AMD would be selling all their cards at a loss
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He is no AMD fanboy. He just is painting the picture of how things and and why they are this way and this makes Nvidia look like the bad guy. Same has him I too fell for the Nvidia GPU back in the day not knowing what I was getting. As soon as I learned a thing or two about review sites I would than buy the right product and support the side that does the Innovation.

His analysis is flawed big time. I pointed where he skipped out on much of Nvidia's successful products which competed very well against AMD as far as price/performance goes. The gtx 260 and gtx 460 and gtx 570 competed very well as far as price to performance goes. The fact that he didn't include these cards in his mindshare video shows bias.
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Do you recall the last time Reddit didn't find some nonexistant/irrelevant issue on an AMD product and made an IMMENSE deal about it?

Because I don't.

yes, lets blame OCN, reddit, nvidia, intel, the CIA, the FBI, apple, google, the different religions and the dolphins, because those slippery bastards....

God forbid, maybe, a small chance, a tiny chance, AMD were the ones who did something wrong, like a crappy PR and the loss of the trust from most consumers.
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Heck they are still selling more 970s than amd is selling of 480s. There's nothing neck to neck about that. It's just consumer ignorance.

Any base information about it?
Nvidia stopped making 970s a year ago. So at most, retailers with the stock are trying to push them out. But it doesn't make sense that they can still sell as many as 480s. Stock wise I can't see that happening.
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yes, lets blame OCN, reddit, nvidia, intel, the CIA, the FBI, apple, google, the different religions and the dolphins, because those slippery bastards....

God forbid, maybe, a small chance, a tiny chance, AMD were the ones who did something wrong, like a crappy PR and the loss of the trust from most consumers.

 

So we're just going to pretend that opinions on the internet don't operate along the same principles as avalanches? One guy heard from another guy heard from his cousin's best friend's husband and now AMD SUX in perpetuity coz Bulldozer. Nearly every tech launch has issues, but when they involve AMD they certainly seem to take on a life of their own to a degree I've never seen with Nvidia or Intel in this decade. To pretend this doesn't happen is disingenuous. Bad PR aside, tech trolls love to skewer AMD because it's free upvotes.

 
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So we're just going to pretend that opinions on the internet don't operate along the same principles as avalanches? One guy heard from another guy heard from his cousin's best friend's husband and now AMD SUX in perpetuity coz Bulldozer. Nearly every tech launch has issues, but when they involve AMD they certainly seem to take on a life of their own to a degree I've never seen with Nvidia or Intel in this decade. To pretend this doesn't happen is disingenuous. Bad PR aside, tech trolls love to skewer AMD because it's free upvotes.

You mean like the excuses?

Like their GPUs are like "fine wine" getting better over time.
Or their CPUs will be better used in 3-4 years.
Like "once developers start learning how to code properly..." etc.

No one cares about that. It is meaningless. Those are just excuses and trying to smother the fire.
When you are buying a GPU or a CPU now, you want them to be better now with the games you are playing in the coming year or two, not what you will be getting in 3-4 years.

I'm not saying this doesn't happen, but this doesn't explain everything.
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