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It's thus perfectly possible that the attack won't be carried out using your network beyond the first point of infection, which can be Ethernet based; the Wi-Fi part never need to have ever been connected to your network..

You're no longer arguing the same point.

What point do you think I'm arguing?
 
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What point do you think I'm arguing?
It's hard to tell when you pollute every post with mass hysteria and clearly have a weak understanding of wifi.

Your original post dictates that integrated wifi is a vulnerability or attack vector.
Your last post indicated that ' it doesn't even need to use your wifi as an attack vector'.

These are different things.
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That type of conflation doesn't make sense. A USB or Ethernet port can't communicate with the outside unless something is physically connected to it.

Do your goalposts have wheels on them?
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What point do you think I'm arguing?
It's hard to tell when you pollute every post with mass hysteria and clearly have a weak understanding of wifi.

Your original post dictates that integrated wifi is a vulnerability or attack vector.
Your last post indicated that ' it doesn't even need to use your wifi as an attack vector'.

These are different things.

I was asking because your first post in this thread was replying without quoting any post.

Also, if you would like to keep the conversation on a professional level, I'd appreciate it. It does no good to the discussion if you go that way.

Yes, my first post is a general consideration and then in the subsequent posts I went into more detail. Nothing in them is contradictory or different, they just add points to the initial argument.

Let me be as clear as possible: built-in Wi-Fi is a vulnerability. You don't need to have ever registered said Wi-Fi on your network for an attacker to use malware and manipulate said functionality to send data from your computer to their router. Meaning, once infected, you don't have a mechanical switch to "disconnect", short of powering it down (and removing the battery if it's a laptop where you can still do that). I thought I had made myself perfectly clear. But if you want to correct me, please do, with facts, instead of accusations. Thank you.


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That type of conflation doesn't make sense. A USB or Ethernet port can't communicate with the outside unless something is physically connected to it.

Do your goalposts have wheels on them?

What do you mean? I thought I was clear.
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What are the pros of this? headscratch.gif
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But if you want to correct me, please do, with facts, instead of accusations. Thank you..

Best of luck on your professional development.
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What are the pros of this? headscratch.gif

for most here
none


but features like wifi and a bazillion USB ports could come to cheaper boards, like B and H series


also integrating more stuff into the chipset would be a good thing for laptops


I'm just so tired of forking over 300 bucks and more for a new board with the same features just to pluck in a recent Intel
especially what for
my z170 already has Mu-MiMo wifi, and way enough USB ports

and 2 generations newer and there is nothing added warranting buying a new board, except Intel likes to design the chip first and then the socket according to it

if the next iteration of I7's (rumoured 6 core mainstream parts, rumoured 1151 Socket) won't fit into my z170 then I'm going for the Ryzen refresh next
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But if you want to correct me, please do, with facts, instead of accusations. Thank you..

Best of luck on your professional development.

Keep being facetious. Adds nothing. If you would like to reconsider and actually read my posts from the first one until the one where you first replied, then come back and tell me where exactly you think I'm wrong or have a "weak understanding of wifi", I'd appreciate it. If you want to have a constructive discussion, of course, which seems unlikely, but one can hope.

Edit: Oh, and please stop misquoting the ending of my sentences with two period punctuation marks. There is just one in there. Whoever reads your quotes of my posts might think that I'm conveying a different meaning.
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for most here
none


but features like wifi and a bazillion USB ports could come to cheaper boards, like B and H series


also integrating more stuff into the chipset would be a good thing for laptops


I'm just so tired of forking over 300 bucks and more for a new board with the same features just to pluck in a recent Intel
especially what for
my z170 already has Mu-MiMo wifi, and way enough USB ports

and 2 generations newer and there is nothing added warranting buying a new board, except Intel likes to design the chip first and then the socket according to it

if the next iteration of I7's (rumoured 6 core mainstream parts, rumoured 1151 Socket) won't fit into my z170 then I'm going for the Ryzen refresh next

And I guess latency too.
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And I guess latency too.

that depends on how congested you're wifi is really, and how free you're air waves are
but sure cable plays it save


I haven't noticed anything compared to a cable though

Mu-MiMo working as intended there
but needs a router that has it too, so it it's quite limited in use for many I'm sure
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