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A jumper or a switch like CynicalUnicorn suggested seem like better and much more practical options, especially for desktop systems.

Oh, I just mentioned the cage as a worst case situation (for those who are really, really paranoid if there is no actual way to switch it off.) I'd trust a hardware switch no issue - but those of us more paranoid, the cage should work.
post #42 of 65
Because what you do is so important that you need to put your computer in a faraday cage. BTW if it was that important there are a variety of side channel attacks that can be used to get your information even with the computer in a faraday cage and air gapped. If someone want's your data they are going to get it. Your paranoia is useless.
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There's so many ways and backdoors in an x86 system that if you're worried about hacking, best jump on an another platform entirely. I'd be more worried about the generalized stuff that most certainly won't leverage this.

I mean yes, this would in theory allow people to remotely connect to your system but how many people turn their routers off or unplug their ethernet when their PC is off? Thanks to the ME, you have the exact same effect.
    
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How, exactly, does an integrated wifi controller on the chipset introduce a vulnerability? It still needs an antenna to actually communicate with anything.
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How, exactly, does an integrated wifi controller on the chipset introduce a vulnerability? It still needs an antenna to actually communicate with anything.

I am guessing because the Wi-Fi module will have direct access to cpu...
post #46 of 65
Not sure why any of this really matters... if NSA already has backdoors built into motherboard BIOS chips... really nothing matters, lol just enjoy your PC's best you can and accept the war has been over before it even began.
    
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This is just a way of the NSA/Intel showing you much love and keeping you more secure! biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif
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My opinion
this only means Intel is in a panic, they got nothing more to offer on their next line up, so they have to intergrate gimmicks in the next chipset
but that's just my opinion
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Yes, and that doesn't make it ok either. Think about the substance of the matter. The same thing with IoT devices. If it becomes infected with malware how do you solve the problem? Turning off the software switch will just be ignored, it's perpetually compromised. And then after a certain age, it's planned obsolescence for sure, as all firmware security vulnerabilities will be left unpatched.

In this case, it's more serious because this is a desktop chipset. Imagine if the enterprise chipsets come with it too. How will a company be able to secure systems if there is a wireless door that can't be taken out or securely disabled? And how will customers in general be able to know that a system is compromised with malware that uses Wi-Fi to communicate? It's nearly invisible.

If infected with malware now, do you physically throw out your wifi adapter and buy a new one? I doubt it. At most, you likely wipe all sources of involatile memory, and rebuild the OS again.

Clearly Intel will have already thought about the situation that you describe prior to your post, and are backing themselves to provide a secure experience that isn't going to cause their largest desktop platforms to be unusable by the community who pays for them.
    
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My opinion
this only means Intel is in a panic, they got nothing more to offer on their next line up, so they have to intergrate gimmicks in the next chipset
but that's just my opinion

Lol I did not think of it like that.
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