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How, exactly, does an integrated wifi controller on the chipset introduce a vulnerability? It still needs an antenna to actually communicate with anything.

Because the ME is always on as long as your PC has power and has access to the network. This means that the WiFi in theory will be always on and possibly connected if Intel choose to allow its use over WiFi.
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My opinion
this only means Intel is in a panic, they got nothing more to offer on their next line up, so they have to intergrate gimmicks in the next chipset
but that's just my opinion

We've been moving towards having everything on one chip for decades now. Hell, Zen can run without any chipset on the motherboard perfectly fine. Long stretch from the days where your HDDs, floppy drives, etc all needed ISA controller cards let alone motherboards often having over 30 chips onboard, sometimes over 100 versus the typical 4-5 or so found on todays boards.
    
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The more I read about the crap going on with new Intel products the more I'm glad I got a 6600K, which will probably be my last Intel based system.

Sometimes it's really nice to just unplug the network every time I want to know absolutely that my computer isn't talking to anything else.
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What are the pros of this? headscratch.gif

cheap mobos will have wifi in it?
i'm much more amused about the "gigabit" part of the integrated wifi, its harder to find those integrated on low-cost boards than to find a gigabit-wifi module.
though if you'd ask me what i'd preferred, i would've chosen Intel's own 10gigabit NICs be integrated into their chipsets, those things are much better than realtek NICs.

USB 3.1 Gen2 on the other hand is much more interesting, and they seem to have finally gotten rid of USB 2.0 on their chipset.
Edited by epic1337 - 4/18/17 at 2:50am
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Why usb3.1 and not thunderbolt3 aka usb-c?
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Why usb3.1 and not thunderbolt3 aka usb-c?

Thunderbolt is a layer on top of USB (and is used by absolutely nothing outside of Apple's ecosystem).

Type C is simply a connector.

They aren't related in the way you seem to imply.



As for the rest of this thread... I'm being reminded that OCN is just a giant wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man.
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Someone really needs to stay off the internet. Do not use WiFi, don't use 4G, don't use a PC. You know, all they do is track you.

This is getting seriously "tin foil hat" territory already.
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Someone really needs to stay off the internet. Do not use WiFi, don't use 4G, don't use a PC. You know, all they do is track you.

This is getting seriously "tin foil hat" territory already.

About 2 days ago I lost power in my area. Best feeling ever. Internet, lights, electricity, electronics take too much part in our lives.
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About 2 days ago I lost power in my area. Best feeling ever. Internet, lights, electricity, electronics take too much part in our lives.

That was not pointed at you but I'm quite sure you knew that.

Anyway, being off the "grid" is actually a good thing once in a while. Just take a trip, camp outside, leave all your electronics at home and it will be the best time for you with your friends! thumb.gif
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I'm sure the wifi controller could be disabled in the BIOS just like any other device. And how many people actually need wifi on a desktop anyway?
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Why usb3.1 and not thunderbolt3 aka usb-c?

The chipset is too far away from the rear IO to make this feasable, ThunderBolt 3 has heavy distance requirements for PCB signaling. Also, Thunderbolt 3 is very high-end and would be very expensive to implement.
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Source.


Integrating Wi-Fi on the chipset is, in my opinion, a big mistake. If that part of the system is compromised, it will make the system extremely vulnerable and much more difficult to fix.
Okay, so don't fret. Intel offers 1Gbit LAN support through the PCH, but you still have to buy the PHY from Intel to implement it, otherwise it's just a disabled MAC that sits in the PCH (like on systems that only use killer NICs). The WIFI will deff be the same, vendors will have to buy a PHY from Intel and implement it if they want to offer WIFI, so don't worry, i am sure there will be many boards without the feature.
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