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It will come with AIO?

biggrin.gifwheee.gif

Now I just need it to be faster than a 1080 and cost $399.

Honestly, they need to pull a ryzen. 1080ti perf for 450$.

The market wont budge otherwise.
post #102 of 140
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Im waiting to see more bios flashes, and see if some one can make it for XFX rx480 RS, its the cheap GTR edition haha, but it has 8-pin power connector.
    
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post #103 of 140
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Honestly, they need to pull a ryzen. 1080ti perf for 450$.

The market wont budge otherwise.

You seen what the 580 is lol... They are not gonna pull a Ryzen. All they can do is play the price game.

I think the performance is going to be terrible by todays standards. But feature wise it will have all the bells and whistles that wont be useful for another 2 years.
post #104 of 140
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

Only if you compare power consumption

...And literally every other relevant metric of GPU engineering. You know, like the performance per transistor/die area, scalability, and resulting raw performance and cost effectiveness both. Pascal is so thoroughly superior in all of those aspects that it is successful in a far broader range of products than anything GCN-based including Tegra/autonomous cars, laptops, the consumer high-end, and HPC... all of which GCN is practically worthless in at the moment (potential arguable case with HPC, but GP100 no doubt dominates atm).

The superior performance per watt and per die area both allow Nvidia to be more cost, cooling, and power efficient in tight form factors like the aforementioned mobile segments to the point where GCN is completely pointless there, they allow them to cram more rendering power at the upper end (HPC and consumer) of physical possibilities imposed by lithography reticle limits and contemporary cooling solutions (hence the Fury X, despite its HBM savings, still couldn't reliably touch even the cut-down GM200 max clock to clock with both at 28nm reticle limits), and in the middle ranges they allow Nvidia to simply be more cost efficient through superior yields, lower raw silicon costs, and lower cooling requirements hence they rake in more cash and fit in tight spaces better.

There isn't a single relevant metric or market where GCN demonstrates any kind of true superiority to its competition. It can't even claim to be on par with its extremely limited chip range and market presence. Open your eyes. We're in a thread demonstrating AMD being so desperate that they had AIBs overclock and rebrand a 1060 competitor to consume nearly as much power as a 1080 Ti. And that's still the best chip they're currently producing. It's an incredibly embarrassing display and you know it. Everyone here knows it, some just refuse to admit it.
Edited by Serandur - 4/19/17 at 9:33am
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post #105 of 140
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Im waiting to see more bios flashes, and see if some one can make it for XFX rx480 RS, its the cheap GTR edition haha, but it has 8-pin power connector.

That is the one that was flashed in the link, the RS biggrin.gif
post #106 of 140
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There isn't a single relevant metric or market where GCN demonstrates any kind of true superiority to its competition.
Bitcoin mining? biggrin.gif
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Cryptocurrency mining? biggrin.gif

Fixed that for you.

Also, to add, ANY REAL program, that doesn't rely heavy on CUDA and is well optimized for OpenCL.

This means scientific research programs like BOINC and its various projects.
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Bitcoin mining? biggrin.gif

GTX 1070 is more efficient for algorithms that matter in 2017. BTC mining on GPUs has been dead for ages unless you mean indirectly through Nicehash. At $350-400 vs $230-280 for RX 580 or $180-200 for RX 570 I'd take the GTX 1070 every time. Once you throw out the price efficiency and faster ROI of clearance priced Polaris, there's no reason to get a Polaris setup. You can fit 4x GTX 1070 on a board and likely outdo a 6x RX 480 setup or possibly a 7x RX 470 setup.

Not to mention there would be more BIOs flashing and memory strap modding required for the RX 580 and RX 570 which have extremely high voltages out of the box relative to the RX 470 and Pascal counterparts.
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post #109 of 140
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GTX 1070 is more efficient for algorithms that matter in 2017. BTC mining on GPUs has been dead for ages unless you mean indirectly through Nicehash. At $350-400 vs $230-280 for RX 580 or $180-200 for RX 570 I'd take the GTX 1070 every time. Once you throw out the price efficiency and faster ROI of clearance priced Polaris, there's no reason to get a Polaris setup. You can fit 4x GTX 1070 on a board and likely outdo a 6x RX 480 setup or possibly a 7x RX 470 setup.

Not to mention there would be more BIOs flashing and memory strap modding required for the RX 580 and RX 570 which have extremely high voltages out of the box relative to the RX 470 and Pascal counterparts.

Ehm, no. The 1080 barely gets 500h/s, which is still lower than stock 470. A stock 460 gets 335h/s. Thats on Cryptonight algo.
Oh, and Einstein@Home does the same kind of GPU jobs for half the time compared to the nVidia counter part. The R9 290 was doing a GPU job for ~15 mins, the 980 was doing it for 18 mins.
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The R9 290 was doing a GPU job for ~15 mins, the 980 was doing it for 18 mins.

How is that any worse? 290 uses 53% more juice but only does it 20% faster?
 
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