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Bitcoin mining? biggrin.gif

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GTX 1070 is more efficient for algorithms that matter in 2017. BTC mining on GPUs has been dead for ages unless you mean indirectly through Nicehash. At $350-400 vs $230-280 for RX 580 or $180-200 for RX 570 I'd take the GTX 1070 every time. Once you throw out the price efficiency and faster ROI of clearance priced Polaris, there's no reason to get a Polaris setup. You can fit 4x GTX 1070 on a board and likely outdo a 6x RX 480 setup or possibly a 7x RX 470 setup.

Not to mention there would be more BIOs flashing and memory strap modding required for the RX 580 and RX 570 which have extremely high voltages out of the box relative to the RX 470 and Pascal counterparts.

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Ehm, no. The 1080 barely gets 500h/s, which is still lower than stock 470. A stock 460 gets 335h/s. Thats on Cryptonight algo.
Oh, and Einstein@Home does the same kind of GPU jobs for half the time compared to the nVidia counter part. The R9 290 was doing a GPU job for ~15 mins, the 980 was doing it for 18 mins.



I could be wrong though. I'll wait for TheLAWNOOB to weigh in.
Edited by BulletSponge - 4/20/17 at 7:41pm
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post #132 of 143
So legitimate question, how do these reviewers measure actual power draw? Do they do it software side, or do they use some type of multi-meter to get a presumably more accurate result? I'm only curious because all of this discussion makes me wonder how much power I use at load.
post #133 of 143
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I could be wrong though. I'll wait for TheLAWNOOB to weigh in.

You DONT mine Bitcoin with GPU's. You mine with ASIC machines.
Otherwise you WILL NOT get ROI EVER. The BTC difficulty is so high, that there is no reason to mine at all with any consumer level hardware.

So this is a moot point you are bringing.

And also, as i said, different coins use different algorithms, so nVidia cards perform differently in each of them.
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I know, the less educated will never notice the slight of hand. AMD should have compared the 480 to the 580 but then they'd be nothing to talk about.

Anyone supporting rebrands should get a talking to as it's stifling the industry and our hobby as a whole.

Dude, AMD is specifically saying that the 580 is NOT intended as an upgrade for 480 owners. That's why they don't compare the two. Think of the 580 as just a refined and slightly better revision of the 480 (basically what the 480 should've been when it launched). If you have a 480 there's no point in replacing it with a 580 and AMD has said exactly that. This card is for those who may have wanted a 480 at the time but didn't get one for whatever reason. Its just the better version of Polaris 10, nothing more, nothing less.

I'm no bigger a fan of rebrands than you are but you also have to consider AMD's position here. They don't have the money to revolutionize both the CPU and GPU market space in the same year. Ryzen took up most of their resources and the Radeon division is simply getting by right now. Vega is where things should get interesting, and Navi to follow...
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I could be wrong though. I'll wait for TheLAWNOOB to weigh in.

As many people have mentioned, all mining of basically any coin has went to the ASIC's. That being said, the R9 290's are still some of the best compute cards out there, as they have much better compute performance than say the 980, Fury, RX 400 series, etc. (Nvidia never had the Compute performance that AMD did during Hawaii-era) (while AMD completely nerfed the compute of Fiji and all succeeding AMD GPU's into the dirt)
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I'm really pleased with my nitro 580 thus far. It's a beautiful card and I'm fairly happy with it's performance. Still holding on to hope for vega though. All the comparisons to 1070 cards is just silly, at regular newegg and amazon prices that card is 90-120$ higher still than even the sapphire limited 580.
post #137 of 143
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As many people have mentioned, all mining of basically any coin has went to the ASIC's. That being said, the R9 290's are still some of the best compute cards out there, as they have much better compute performance than say the 980, Fury, RX 400 series, etc. (Nvidia never had the Compute performance that AMD did during Hawaii-era) (while AMD completely nerfed the compute of Fiji and all succeeding AMD GPU's into the dirt)

Yeah, I know. I miss the days of mining Protoshares on a 280X while gaming on a 670 FTW in my rig.
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post #138 of 143
still a few mining projects worth using a gpu or two if you have them kicking around, and there's always the potential for a new hash algorithm that the gpu's might like and the asic's wont..

that said there are smarter ways to earn e-coins wink.gif
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I'm really pleased with my nitro 580 thus far. It's a beautiful card and I'm fairly happy with it's performance. Still holding on to hope for vega though. All the comparisons to 1070 cards is just silly, at regular newegg and amazon prices that card is 90-120$ higher still than even the sapphire limited 580.

I agree 100%! The 580 is basically more performance than 95% of consumers will ever need in 2017 and its still an amazing value at just $229-$249. That's the same money I spent on a 560Ti back in 2011 but now in 2017 that amount gets you a card that can basically max any game at 1080p and most at 1440p (even 4K is possible). Of course all of that applies to the 1060 as well which is also an amazing value but, with less memory, not as good a high resolution card as the 580 IMO. If you are still running a 970 or a 380 or less then there's really no reason not to get yourself a 580 or 1060 at this point, unless you are still very satisfied with your gaming performance.
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At $230 on the egg, a powercolor dragon radeon 580 is an insane price/performance card for 1080p atm for someone who has an older card. End of story.
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