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post #191 of 229
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Originally Posted by chris89 View Post

Thanks yeah it's interesting... 3Ghz (Boosts 3.3-3.7Ghz) like the 8000 series fx minus unlocked multi unless you can find unlocked multi ES 4280? haha

It's pretty good you could probably deck it out 64GB ram 8-core Opteron and board like $120 or something haha half that of the G34 board alone... It's 8-Core's .. better than 4-Core's haha

I'll look for a more ideal cooler blowing in all directions rather than just 2 directions... cooling ram mosfets chipset vrm and video card biggrin.gif

Wow, that's pretty good. I wonder how I missed that Opteron while searching for mine.
Being that those are bulldozer cores, I expect it'll probably perform like an FX-8120. If you could get an Engineering sample, I'd bet it clocks like an 8120 too.

Also, something else to keep in mind is with Engineering Samples, you have to overclock with P-States; which makes things a little more finicky.
post #192 of 229
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

Wow, that's pretty good. I wonder how I missed that Opteron while searching for mine.
Being that those are bulldozer cores, I expect it'll probably perform like an FX-8120. If you could get an Engineering sample, I'd bet it clocks like an 8120 too.

Also, something else to keep in mind is with Engineering Samples, you have to overclock with P-States; which makes things a little more finicky.

How do you overclock with power states... bios or software?

I was looking for coolers and c32/ g34 select is limited... Might some how break the fins off a cheap c32/ g34 cooler (same mounting)... Then thermal glue a standard AM3 Wraith style 80mm heatsink to the mounting "plate"... get airflow in all directions plus the thermal glue is very effective.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361253756416?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

This fan looks good for this heatsink for minimal jimmy rigging... 41CFM Delta 75-80mm fan in 70mm case as heatsink will fit 75mm mounting max.

$8
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFC0712DB-70mm-x-15mm-Ball-Bearing-4-Pin-PWM-Fan-FREE-S-H-/391768483891?hash=item5b3738a833:m:mXJuWth0me9tLA8VyPBqTnw

Delta obviously loud at full tilt 41CFM.. but 41CFM is too much likely... on PWM probably wouldn't need more than 9V is 30.75cfm ... 3.417 CFM per volt...

$19 : Copper 1U heatsink... yes small but the delta will keep it in line... plus copper is 500 watts per meter kelvin so it'll cool effectively with Delta airflow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AVC-AMD-Socket-C32-F1207-1U-Passive-CPU-Cooler-Heatsink-W-Thermal-Clay-/152451472927?hash=item237ed0de1f:g:w8MAAOSw4A5Ysy1n
Edited by chris89 - 5/1/17 at 9:40am
post #193 of 229
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Originally Posted by chris89 View Post

How do you overclock with power states... bios or software?

I was looking for coolers and c32/ g34 select is limited... Might some how break the fins off a cheap c32/ g34 cooler (same mounting)... Then thermal glue a standard AM3 Wraith style 80mm heatsink to the mounting "plate"... get airflow in all directions plus the thermal glue is very effective.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361253756416?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I'll be interested to see what you come up with as a cooling solution doing that!

For p-state adjustment, I would typically use a tool like TurionPowerControl (TPC). It's in software.

An overclock would look something like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl -set pstate 0 freq 2000 vcore 1.200


EDIT:
Reading more into this, it seems like there's a lot I'm gonna have to learn tongue.gif


Useful info:
https://hardforum.com/threads/opteron-identification.1753865/
http://www.cpu-world.com/info/id/AMD-K10-identification.html



EDIT:

I started second guessing myself hard.
Yes, you'd use a tool like TPC (not sure of any other tools) to change the multiplier on the ES. I think all Opteron ES's are unlocked.

Here we go, a nice little guide on overclocking G34 processors:
https://hardforum.com/threads/g34-overclocking-central.1765747/



Also in case anyone else gets tripped up about the IL, AD, and MC talk:
IL = Interlagos
AD = Abu Dhabi
MC = Magny-Cours


EDIT Again tongue.gif:
So I got home, moved the VGA jumper and the board is still not booting. Typically, if I had badly configured ram or something, I'd get some beep codes to debug with; but nothing at all is happening. The lights come on, fans start spinning and that's it.
Normally the fans would ramp all the way up and the GPU would kick on, but nothing happens after the lights come on. I'm concerned the motherboard is dead frown.gif


Okay, I fixed it. We're down a channel of memory, but we still have 3 left and they're all fully loaded biggrin.gif
I'll be spending the rest of the evening running benches and hopefully we can have some good results!






I had time to run some tests.

I ran AIDA64 Stress test for 10 minutes:



You can see the TMP2 sensor hitting 87 there. I believe that is northbridge. It's pretty concerning, but it seems pretty stable at 80-82 in general, so I'm gonna worry about it later.




So I started off by running Passmark at stock frequency. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

All looked good, vcore is at 1.2125v I believe. Temps stayed around 45c, not high enough to worry me.

Obviously the next step was to kick it up to 3.5GHz Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Again, temps stayed reasonable and vcore was left at 1.2125v

Next I kicked the frequency up to 3.8GHz and tried to run. Got about halfway through the test before bluescreening. So I increased vcore to Pstate 0's vcore setting of 1.3125v and it runs fine and seems stable, though I haven't done stability testing, just benchmarks. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I kicked it up to 3.9GHz next, ran fine - again at 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I tried 4GHz next but it crashed out again. I'm running low on time, so further testing will have to wait. What I can say though is that these things are monsters. If I got up to 3.9GHz on this tiny Dynatron fan peaking at 3.9GHz @ 1.3125v in an hour, the sky is the limit on water and lord knows how far it could go in a chillbox.


Oh, and 3dMark's TimeSpy at 3.8GHz with 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Overclocking was done with TurionPowerControl. It's relatively easy. The command I used basically looked like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl.exe -set pstate 1 freq 3900 vcore 1.3125

Pstate 0 seems to be unused, so I just used pstate 1 tongue.gif Didn't seem to matter.
Edited by Skyl3r - 5/1/17 at 7:20pm
post #194 of 229
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

I'll be interested to see what you come up with as a cooling solution doing that!

For p-state adjustment, I would typically use a tool like TurionPowerControl (TPC). It's in software.

An overclock would look something like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl -set pstate 0 freq 2000 vcore 1.200


EDIT:
Reading more into this, it seems like there's a lot I'm gonna have to learn tongue.gif


Useful info:
https://hardforum.com/threads/opteron-identification.1753865/
http://www.cpu-world.com/info/id/AMD-K10-identification.html



EDIT:

I started second guessing myself hard.
Yes, you'd use a tool like TPC (not sure of any other tools) to change the multiplier on the ES. I think all Opteron ES's are unlocked.

Here we go, a nice little guide on overclocking G34 processors:
https://hardforum.com/threads/g34-overclocking-central.1765747/



Also in case anyone else gets tripped up about the IL, AD, and MC talk:
IL = Interlagos
AD = Abu Dhabi
MC = Magny-Cours


EDIT Again tongue.gif:
So I got home, moved the VGA jumper and the board is still not booting. Typically, if I had badly configured ram or something, I'd get some beep codes to debug with; but nothing at all is happening. The lights come on, fans start spinning and that's it.
Normally the fans would ramp all the way up and the GPU would kick on, but nothing happens after the lights come on. I'm concerned the motherboard is dead frown.gif


Okay, I fixed it. We're down a channel of memory, but we still have 3 left and they're all fully loaded biggrin.gif
I'll be spending the rest of the evening running benches and hopefully we can have some good results!






I had time to run some tests.

I ran AIDA64 Stress test for 10 minutes:



You can see the TMP2 sensor hitting 87 there. I believe that is northbridge. It's pretty concerning, but it seems pretty stable at 80-82 in general, so I'm gonna worry about it later.




So I started off by running Passmark at stock frequency. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

All looked good, vcore is at 1.2125v I believe. Temps stayed around 45c, not high enough to worry me.

Obviously the next step was to kick it up to 3.5GHz Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Again, temps stayed reasonable and vcore was left at 1.2125v

Next I kicked the frequency up to 3.8GHz and tried to run. Got about halfway through the test before bluescreening. So I increased vcore to Pstate 0's vcore setting of 1.3125v and it runs fine and seems stable, though I haven't done stability testing, just benchmarks. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I kicked it up to 3.9GHz next, ran fine - again at 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I tried 4GHz next but it crashed out again. I'm running low on time, so further testing will have to wait. What I can say though is that these things are monsters. If I got up to 3.9GHz on this tiny Dynatron fan peaking at 3.9GHz @ 1.3125v in an hour, the sky is the limit on water and lord knows how far it could go in a chillbox.


Oh, and 3dMark's TimeSpy at 3.8GHz with 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Overclocking was done with TurionPowerControl. It's relatively easy. The command I used basically looked like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl.exe -set pstate 1 freq 3900 vcore 1.3125

Pstate 0 seems to be unused, so I just used pstate 1 tongue.gif Didn't seem to matter.

that opteron seems to do quite nice. I would like to see Cinebench R15.
post #195 of 229
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

I'll be interested to see what you come up with as a cooling solution doing that!

For p-state adjustment, I would typically use a tool like TurionPowerControl (TPC). It's in software.

An overclock would look something like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl -set pstate 0 freq 2000 vcore 1.200


EDIT:
Reading more into this, it seems like there's a lot I'm gonna have to learn tongue.gif


Useful info:
https://hardforum.com/threads/opteron-identification.1753865/
http://www.cpu-world.com/info/id/AMD-K10-identification.html



EDIT:

I started second guessing myself hard.
Yes, you'd use a tool like TPC (not sure of any other tools) to change the multiplier on the ES. I think all Opteron ES's are unlocked.

Here we go, a nice little guide on overclocking G34 processors:
https://hardforum.com/threads/g34-overclocking-central.1765747/



Also in case anyone else gets tripped up about the IL, AD, and MC talk:
IL = Interlagos
AD = Abu Dhabi
MC = Magny-Cours


EDIT Again tongue.gif:
So I got home, moved the VGA jumper and the board is still not booting. Typically, if I had badly configured ram or something, I'd get some beep codes to debug with; but nothing at all is happening. The lights come on, fans start spinning and that's it.
Normally the fans would ramp all the way up and the GPU would kick on, but nothing happens after the lights come on. I'm concerned the motherboard is dead frown.gif


Okay, I fixed it. We're down a channel of memory, but we still have 3 left and they're all fully loaded biggrin.gif
I'll be spending the rest of the evening running benches and hopefully we can have some good results!






I had time to run some tests.

I ran AIDA64 Stress test for 10 minutes:



You can see the TMP2 sensor hitting 87 there. I believe that is northbridge. It's pretty concerning, but it seems pretty stable at 80-82 in general, so I'm gonna worry about it later.




So I started off by running Passmark at stock frequency. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

All looked good, vcore is at 1.2125v I believe. Temps stayed around 45c, not high enough to worry me.

Obviously the next step was to kick it up to 3.5GHz Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Again, temps stayed reasonable and vcore was left at 1.2125v

Next I kicked the frequency up to 3.8GHz and tried to run. Got about halfway through the test before bluescreening. So I increased vcore to Pstate 0's vcore setting of 1.3125v and it runs fine and seems stable, though I haven't done stability testing, just benchmarks. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I kicked it up to 3.9GHz next, ran fine - again at 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I tried 4GHz next but it crashed out again. I'm running low on time, so further testing will have to wait. What I can say though is that these things are monsters. If I got up to 3.9GHz on this tiny Dynatron fan peaking at 3.9GHz @ 1.3125v in an hour, the sky is the limit on water and lord knows how far it could go in a chillbox.


Oh, and 3dMark's TimeSpy at 3.8GHz with 1.3125v Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Overclocking was done with TurionPowerControl. It's relatively easy. The command I used basically looked like:
Code:
TurionPowerControl.exe -set pstate 1 freq 3900 vcore 1.3125

Pstate 0 seems to be unused, so I just used pstate 1 tongue.gif Didn't seem to matter.

That's sick dude haha yeah get full version I bet that L1 Copy is maybe 600GB/s or more... L2 seems like L1 Opteron 1389 so it's a lot more powerful.... memory performance looking a bit -eh- but you know it's a cheap 16-core. Let's get the full results and AIDA GPGPU score.

Going off Opteron 1389 scores of 475GB/s L1 copy vs 100GB/s L2 Copy.. that's 4.75x faster so the Opteron 16 core might be like 800GB/s L1 copy actually and I'd hope maybe more.. but it's L2 is strong.

I'm guessing Cinebench R15 is about 750-850... maybe more maybe less
Edited by chris89 - 5/2/17 at 1:39am
post #196 of 229
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Originally Posted by Piskeante View Post

that opteron seems to do quite nice. I would like to see Cinebench R15.

Sure, I can run that once I get home today!
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris89 View Post

That's sick dude haha yeah get full version I bet that L1 Copy is maybe 600GB/s or more... L2 seems like L1 Opteron 1389 so it's a lot more powerful.... memory performance looking a bit -eh- but you know it's a cheap 16-core. Let's get the full results and AIDA GPGPU score.

Going off Opteron 1389 scores of 475GB/s L1 copy vs 100GB/s L2 Copy.. that's 4.75x faster so the Opteron 16 core might be like 800GB/s L1 copy actually and I'd hope maybe more.. but it's L2 is strong.

I'm guessing Cinebench R15 is about 750-850... maybe more maybe less

What full results are you looking for? I can run GPGPU when I get home as well.
To be honest, I never benchmark with Cinebench, so I don't really know what the scores mean lol

I'm dying to get some dry ice and see how far I can push this thing biggrin.gif


EDIT:
By the way, if anyone is interested. The TurionPowerControl software can be found here:
https://code.google.com/archive/p/turionpowercontrol/downloads

All the Binaries contain docs, windows and linux binaries and source.
Edited by Skyl3r - 5/2/17 at 5:08am
post #197 of 229
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HMU on Skype... it's my user name ... with 1 before the numbers and 2006 at the end... with space between name and numbers.

Maybe someone can host a TeamSpeak dealio for us... Called the Title of this thread? haha Chat discussion is Kool

Unless Overclock.net up and add CHAT to the site that would be cool and we can make our Chat Channel and what not biggrin.gif
Edited by chris89 - 5/2/17 at 7:02am
post #198 of 229
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HMU on Skype... it's my user name ... with 1 before the numbers and 2006 at the end... with space between name and numbers.

Maybe someone can host a TeamSpeak dealio for us... Called the Title of this thread? haha Chat discussion is Kool

Unless Overclock.net up and add CHAT to the site that would be cool and we can make our Chat Channel and what not biggrin.gif

Sure but I won't be able to until later this evening.
I was hoping there was an IRC for both processor discussion and especially specialized cooling discussion. I looked it up and I guess it was tried before but OCN staff determined it was too much to moderate. So it won't be coming back. It's sad, but I understand the issue there.


EDIT:

Just found some of the most useful information I've managed to stumble across:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MU_Engineer View Post

Socket 940, Socket C32, and nearly all socket F boards use the standard 3.5" heatsink pitch that all Athlon 64 and later desktop boards use. Get a Socket 754 or 939 two-bolt retention bracket and simply attach it to the board, and use your favorite 754/939/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1/FM2/FM2+ clamp-on water block.

G34 and a very small number of TYAN Socket F boards use the unusual 4.1" heatsink pitck. However, there are still G34 water blocks out there. EK makes a version of the Supremacy that fits the G34 socket, and Koolance offers an adapter for the CPU-360/370/380 for G34. There may be more blocks out there as well.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2669398/amd-opteron-8439se-watercooling.html
Edited by Skyl3r - 5/2/17 at 7:35am
post #199 of 229
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Maybe someone here can host the TeamSpeak channel for us? Invite gamer girls too... too many dudes gets boring haha
post #200 of 229
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Originally Posted by chris89 View Post

Maybe someone here can host the TeamSpeak channel for us? Invite gamer girls too... too many dudes gets boring haha

What's wrong with something like Discord?

Well, I'm out to get a waterblock for my socket G34 board now. I'm torn up on how I want to cool it though. Either direct die peltier or peltier chiller/phase change hybrid. Both will cost about the same amount. The toss up really comes down to space consumption and noise.
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