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The 7700k and 6700k are practically identical up to 5.0GHz, except the 7700k runs a lot hotter at every speed. For the casual overclocker, the 6700k is the better chip.

Yes but how many 6700k overclock easily to 5ghz?
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Yes but how many 6700k overclock easily to 5ghz?

What's easy? I've owned three 6700ks. All could run @5. The one I'm using now, I run at 5.0/4.6 for daily use, including gaming. Wouldn't want to do it on air. I've had one 7700. Did 5. In fact, did 5.2GHz. Wouldn't want to do it on air. Given the choice, I chose to keep my 6700 and sell the 7700. If you look at my benchmarks on this site, most, if not all were done with a 6700k @ 5.0 or 5.04.

They're basically the same chip. They score ~the same on benchmarks up to 5.0, with the 7700 always generating more heat. For Mr. Joe Average who wants to run @ 4.7 GHz, the 6700 is the better chip. It will run cooler with lower temp spiking at that speed.

After running benchmarks on and off for an hour, my current 6700k's hottest core idles @ 26C/1.075V with memory overclocked to 3200. The board temp is 24-25C. On the same system, I couldn't get the 7700k to idle below 33C no matter what I did.

The 7700 will go faster and may pull away doing some things in some software, but in everyday real-world use, the performance is identical, with the 6700k doing it all at lower temps.

Think of the 7700k as a hot, binned 6700k.
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What's easy? I've owned three 6700ks. All could run @5. The one I'm using now, I run at 5.0/4.6 for daily use, including gaming. Wouldn't want to do it on air. I've had one 7700. Did 5. In fact, did 5.2GHz. Wouldn't want to do it on air. Given the choice, I chose to keep my 6700 and sell the 7700. If you look at my benchmarks on this site, most, if not all were done with a 6700k @ 5.0 or 5.04.

They're basically the same chip. They score ~the same on benchmarks up to 5.0, with the 7700 always generating more heat. For Mr. Joe Average who wants to run @ 4.7 GHz, the 6700 is the better chip. It will run cooler with lower temp spiking at that speed.

After running benchmarks on and off for an hour, my current 6700k's hottest core idles @ 26C/1.075V with memory overclocked to 3200. The board temp is 24-25C. On the same system, I couldn't get the 7700k to idle below 33C no matter what I did.

The 7700 will go faster and may pull away doing some things in some software, but in everyday real-world use, the performance is identical, with the 6700k doing it all at lower temps.

Think of the 7700k as a hot, binned 6700k.

Maybe u need delid? I got 19 degress lower by doing delid w Liquid ultra between die and ihs. I have kaby lake
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Maybe u need delid? I got 19 degress lower by doing delid w Liquid ultra between die and ihs. I have kaby lake

I could have, but didn't see the need. I ran benches/experimented for a few days to compare the two chips. If I didn't already have a 6700k, I'd have kept and delidded it, but since I had the 6700 already, I just saw no reason to upgrade. I decided to skip the 7700 and just go better with my next build.
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I could have, but didn't see the need. I ran benches/experimented for a few days to compare the two chips. If I didn't already have a 6700k, I'd have kept and delidded it, but since I had the 6700 already, I just saw no reason to upgrade. I decided to skip the 7700 and just go better with my next build.
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wise choice.

I came from a sandy bridge 2600k@4,8, i could have waiting longer but 32 -> 14 nm seems reasonable to upgrade smile.gif
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wise choice.

I came from a sandy bridge 2600k@4,8, i could have waiting longer but 32 -> 14 nm seems reasonable to upgrade smile.gif

Yeah. Everyone has to make that choice of when to make the jump. I'm set for now and that's good because I've upgraded the entire neighborhood so I've run out of local friends (and their kids) to sell my used parts to! laughingsmiley.gif
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