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post #11 of 26
With the F20 you'll be able to do 4.0 or 4.1 with some luck
post #12 of 26
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With the F20 you'll be able to do 4.0 or 4.1 with some luck

Jeez, that little? o-o


hate to imagine what i was doing when i tried using 1.4v for a little there...
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by curryimpeh View Post

Jeez, that little? o-o


hate to imagine what i was doing when i tried using 1.4v for a little there...

I was in the same boat as you with my 4820K. It ran well but I wanted more features from my motherboard and X79 boards are almost as expensive now as when they were new. So I have a Ryzen build now lol
post #14 of 26
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I was in the same boat as you with my 4820K. It ran well but I wanted more features from my motherboard and X79 boards are almost as expensive now as when they were new. So I have a Ryzen build now lol

i'm kinda looking at Ryzen boards as we speak, or maybe picking up a X99'er or that, in future though


intel extreme tuner can get me upto 4.2ghz but that's at most, i've tried mobo ocing but all i got was slowness and ethernet not working ;'D, .. i dunno... 4.2 isn't that bad,

i'll need time to think on it really
post #15 of 26
There are not many 4930K and 4960X used units for sale in Europe and they tend to be much more expensive than Sandy-E, while something like 3930K is dirt cheap and there are many of them. Issue is with proper PCI-E 3.0 support, you can force it but you have no guarantee of it working. But there are Xeons like 1650, same as 3930K but with native PCI-E 3.0 support and similar price to 3930K, so this looks like a way to go. Although I will look for 4930K/4960X myself, if Skylake-X is not good enough to make me upgrade.

I would love to see some up to date gaming benchmarks 3930k vs 4930k vs 5930k/6850k. I only have the reference for 4690K vs 4820K because I had both. I tested clock for clock at 4.5 GHz with the same memory sticks. In multithreaded games averages are the same but 4820K is way better in minimum FPS and general stability, and in games that are not using more than 4 cores or does use HT 4820K is about 10-12% behind, so differences are not really impressive, except for Kaby Lake that is flying away with those 5 GHz overclocks. But still I don't have any reference to Sandy and all available benchmarks are completely outdated.

But still, if Skylake-X 6c/12t or 8c/16t won't be as fast as Kabylake per core or faster than I probably won't bother with upgrading and I will just get Sandy/Ivy 6c/12t.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 4/20/17 at 4:14pm
post #16 of 26
3930K have 3.0 speed thumb.gif
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by curryimpeh View Post

i'm kinda looking at Ryzen boards as we speak, or maybe picking up a X99'er or that, in future though


intel extreme tuner can get me upto 4.2ghz but that's at most, i've tried mobo ocing but all i got was slowness and ethernet not working ;'D, .. i dunno... 4.2 isn't that bad,

i'll need time to think on it really

I have an MSi GD-45 Plus I'll sell you. It ran my 4820K at 4.5GHz with only 1.23v
It has a Windows 10 Pro license attached to it too.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

I have an MSi GD-45 Plus I'll sell you. It ran my 4820K at 4.5GHz with only 1.23v
It has a Windows 10 Pro license attached to it too.

for how much would you sell it for maybe? o3o

(also im UK based if that makes any mess :''D )
Edited by curryimpeh - 4/21/17 at 2:22am
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by narutonic View Post

3930K have 3.0 speed thumb.gif

It doesn't natively support 3.0.

Here is what Nvidia says about it:
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GeForce GTX 600 series (Kepler class) and higher GPUs support PCI Express 3.0. They operate properly within the SIG PCI Express Specification and have been validated on multiple PCI Express 3.0 platforms. Some motherboard manufacturers have released an updated SBIOS to enable the Intel X79/SNB-E PCI Express 2.0 platform to run at up to 8GT/s bus speeds. We have tested GeForce GTX 680 and GTX 670 GPUs across a number of X79/SNB-E platforms at 8GT/s bus speeds, but have seen significant variation in signal timing across different motherboards and CPUs. Therefore we’ve decided to only support and guarantee PCI Express 2.0 bus speeds on X79/SNB-E with our standard release drivers. Native PCI Express 3.0 platforms (like Ivy Bridge) will run at 8GT/s bus speeds with our standard release drivers.

Though we cannot officially support or guarantee 8GT/s speeds for X79/SNB-E, you can manually enable faster 8GT/s bus speeds (at your own risk) using the following executable: force-enable-gen3.exe

If you would like to revert back to 5GT/s bus speeds you can do so by running the following command from the DOS command line: “force-enable-gen3.exe –revert”

You may download "force-enable-gen3.exe" from the File Attachments section below. You will need to reboot your system for the changes to take effect.

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3135/~/geforce-gen3-support-on-x79-platform

So basically you can force it, but there is no guarantee for it to work properly. Shouldn't be a problem with single GPU though, but still it is worth knowing about all of this before buying.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 4/21/17 at 5:40am
post #20 of 26
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so i guess i best stick to ethier a e5 1650 or a 4930k or 4960x then? o3o;
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