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AMD showed up with competitive parts, now it's time for Intel to show up with competitive prices. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
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PCI express lanes.

From what I have read, the 4 core has the same amount of lanes as the 7700k. It is essentially the mainstream part fitted to the HEDT socket, it doesn't even do quad channel memory. Since nothing is official at this point, I could be completely wrong.
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Calling this:

"I bought 8C/16T, which is 200$ (300 ?) more expensive than R7 line, because LOOK AT THAT IPC - again higher than AMD, and I can run any of those 2-3 single-threaded SW/games at maximum performance.".

and this:

*AMD introduces 8C/16T processors for mainstream platforms* - not going to buy this, 4-core all the way !
*Intel introduces 8C/16T processors for mainstream platforms* - shut up and take my money, no, I never said 4-cores are best for gaming !
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Berserk? Offering 6-8 cores on a premium platform?

6C on mainstream platform this year and possibly 8C with Ice Lake next year. HEDT platform will range from 6C to 12C. And they are launching all upcoming desktop chips earlier than expected. Yes, I consider this an agressive response from Intel.
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AMD showed up with competitive parts, now it's time for Intel to show up with competitive prices. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
From what I have read, the 4 core has the same amount of lanes as the 7700k. It is essentially the mainstream part fitted to the HEDT socket, it doesn't even do quad channel memory. Since nothing is official at this point, I could be completely wrong.

We don't know much about the X299 board yet but it's hard to imagine it has more features than the Z270 platform.

I could see getting the quad core as a placeholder and upgrading later but the resale on that cpu would probably not be great.

I wanted to go with a 6 core intel but a lot of the games I play are single threaded and severely cpu bound so I went with the 7700k. No regrets but if they came out with a hex core that had the same IPC and clockability, I would be very interested.
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Calling this:

"I bought 8C/16T, which is 200$ (300 ?) more expensive than R7 line, because LOOK AT THAT IPC - again higher than AMD, and I can run any of those 2-3 single-threaded SW/games at maximum performance.".

and this:

*AMD introduces 8C/16T processors for mainstream platforms* - not going to buy this, 4-core all the way !
*Intel introduces 8C/16T processors for mainstream platforms* - shut up and take my money, no, I never said 4-cores are best for gaming !

I highly doubt the x299 platform will win any gaming performance tests against Z270, and will surely not win against Z370. If the HEDT 6/8/10 cores could clock as well as the 1151 4 cores and if they could support the memory speeds of the 1151 4 cores, they would be gaming champions. But they don't and they can't so the 4 core 1151's will remain the king of game benchmarking.

Luckily for those of us interested in playing games at decent resolutions it really doesn't matter and we can just get the processor and platform we are most interested in since the gaming performance will pretty much be the same across the board at 1440p and up.


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We don't know much about the X299 board yet but it's hard to imagine it has more features than the Z270 platform.

I could see getting the quad core as a placeholder and upgrading later but the resale on that cpu would probably not be great.

I wanted to go with a 6 core intel but a lot of the games I play are single threaded and severely cpu bound so I went with the 7700k. No regrets but if they came out with a hex core that had the same IPC and clockability, I would be very interested.

It seems like they have stuck the Z270 pch on the X299 boards so the features should be pretty much the same plus whatever gets added to take advantage of the extra pci-e lanes.
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does X299 have pcie-4?
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Gen 3 from everything I have seen so far, I think Gen 4 is having issues getting finalized.
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Anyone know of a good reason to go with the X299 Quad core over a 7700k outside of trying to just maintain a consistent platform in a large environment?

7700K platform at best you can use 1 GPU with 1 full speed m.2 drive and one gimped speed m.2 drive through chipset. Or two GPUs and only a gimped m.2.
The HEDT platform has 40+ lanes which can let you run 1 graphics card and up to 6 full speed m.2 drives if the motherboard had room for that many, or two GPUs and two full speed m.2 drives. Along with double the RAM if you need it and a lot more CPUs cores if you need them. Mainly it is the full speed peripherals that I care about though.



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does X299 have pcie-4?

gen 4 is not yet completed and released. It wont be in any CPUs this year, and may only be in CPUs released towards the end of next since it takes 9-12 months to get a CPU made from an already known core design.

EDIT: actually, Intel *could* release a CPU with an early version of the PCI-E 4.0 spec. Just like router companies did with wireless-n, and Mellanox has done with Infiniband cards for PCI-E 4. The problem would be possible future compatibility problems and it would pretty much force PCI-SIG to halt the spec process and release "as is" if Intel were to launch a whole CPU gen based on one of the early spec revisions. But Intel *could*, if they wanted to push a major advantage over competition and didnt care about making some powerful people hate them. lol
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I am going to take with a very large grain of salt some of these changes don't make logical sense. I feel people are throwing things at a wall so they can say they were right when 90% was garbage rolleyes.gif

New HEDT cores are definitely coming intel has not missed that cadence in quite some time. If we will see more than 10 cores *shrugs* they have 22 core chips that will drop into the current socket seeing them leverage more cores would not be much of a stretch. But this unified platform rumor feels really left field. I don't see any reason for that switch and remain very skeptical.
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post #20 of 28
Huh.
Coffee lake X is rumored to be just a single SKU line up, and a quad core at that? I wonder what is going to set it apart/make it worthy of HEDT X299.
Gotta be some more PCIE lanes right?
For today's gamse, of which many still seem to prefer higher single thread perf/clocks over more cores, a 7700k esque chip w/ 40 PCIE lanes could be enticing for me. I want SLI, x2 m.2 drives, and dedicated sound.
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