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So what's the highest ram speed anybody has gotten from this board? Is 3200 about the top?
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I have noticed this as well, especially after trying out that Corsair LPX RAM. I think the setting for..'advance boot learning'..or something along those lines may have something to do with the lengthy boot times. It's the setting directly underneath enable XMP profile.

Anyone get a total blue screen for a few seconds on initial boot, before getting to the ASRock POST logo?

I was thinking lengthy boot time for me had to partially do with having GPU in 2nd slot. I also can't find option to choose which slot for motherboard to default to for video out.


Do you have the same issue that UEFI screen outputs on the second GPU when there are two plugged in? Its annoying...have to keep plugging monitor into second GPU whenever I need to get into BIOS.
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Do you have the same issue that UEFI screen outputs on the second GPU when there are two plugged in? Its annoying...have to keep plugging monitor into second GPU whenever I need to get into BIOS.

 

I'm not running dual GPU's, I just initially had the card in the 2nd slot.  Rearranged some cable management and am now running in the primary 3.0 slot.

 

 

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So what's the highest ram speed anybody has gotten from this board? Is 3200 about the top?

 

I have mine running at 3200 with XMP, but have not tried overclocking the RAM at all.

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FYI, 1.0.0.6a seemed to have kept my booting more stable, where I'd get random black screens before at some boots (and had to power cycle to get it to work)
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Got this MB with r5 1600 about a week ago, updated to BIOS 3.00 with AGESA 1.0.0.6a straight away. I also got G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 with Hynix M-Die chips in it. Right now I OC'd the processor to 3900MHz@1,275v and it is ok for gaming and office work, however any heavy load stress test like OCCT or Prime95 just crashes the system. 3800MHz with same voltage is ok even in stress tests. As for the memory, at the moment it is overclocked to 2800MHz@1,35v and timings 14-14-14-28. I managed to boot 2933MHz with standard timings according to XMP, but it was tricky to make it work and booting was not really stable (PC started after single shut-down sequence) so I returned to 2800 with lower timings. 3200 just never boot up, I was getting 3 shut-downs and then automatic restore to default 2133MHz.

The tricky part with booting at 2933 was as follows: I had to change the frequency step by step starting from 2400 up to 2933 with reboot. If I tried to start from 2800 I got 3 times shut-down and restore of default 2133. I hope AGESA 1007 will improve memory compatibility

What I didn't like about this board is 3-pin fan connector, I don't understand why Asrock did that. According to my experience that fan can't be controlled via bios or Asrock tuning utility and fan just runs at 100% all the time. So instead I used 2 deepcool fan hubs with 2 4-pin connectors to connect 5 fans - 3x140mm to CPU connector and 2x120mm to 4-pin case connector. For example MSI b350m mortar has 4 PWM connectors and each of them can be manually set to PWM or voltage control.

But overall this board is one of the best mATX ones on the market in my opinion.

by the way, I was a bit upset when I found that quite old game called Street legal racing redline had stutterings in the garage and very poor FPS in the city. After some search I found that disabling HPET can solve the problem. So I disable that option in BIOS and game started to run smoothly, I also noticed that in Cinebench openGL test disabling HPET increased the FPT from 87 to 115. So if you are experiencing any strutterings in old games for example, give this method a try
Edited by Maddreg - 8/16/17 at 7:32am
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Got this MB with r5 1600 about a week ago, updated to BIOS 3.00 with AGESA 1.0.0.6a straight away. I also got G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 with Hynix M-Die chips in it. Right now I OC'd the processor to 3900MHz@1,275v and it is ok for gaming and office work, however any heavy load stress test like OCCT or Prime95 just crashes the system. 3800MHz with same voltage is ok even in stress tests. As for the memory, at the moment it is overclocked to 2800MHz@1,35v and timings 14-14-14-28....

How do you manage to get memory timing at 2800Mhz (Mtps, actually, btw)? I thought the Ryzen memory multipliers were 'fixed' at ...., 26.6x, 29.3x, 32x (2666, 2933 and 3200).

So does this board have a programmable FSB? I didn't know any B350 boards did that, much less a budget mATX like this!

Inquiring minds... lol

Oh yeah: don't be afraid to give it more volts to keep it stable.
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How do you manage to get memory timing at 2800Mhz (Mtps, actually, btw)? I thought the Ryzen memory multipliers were 'fixed' at ...., 26.6x, 29.3x, 32x (2666, 2933 and 3200).

So does this board have a programmable FSB? I didn't know any B350 boards did that, much less a budget mATX like this!

Inquiring minds... lol

Oh yeah: don't be afraid to give it more volts to keep it stable.

AGESA 1006 added a monstrous amount of RAM compatibility. Here's an excerpt from Anandtech..and I quote:

With this new AGESA version, AMD has added 26 new memory-related parameters. The most dramatic improvement is the significant expansion of memory speed options. If we exclude base block overclocking - which relatively few motherboards support - the AM4 platform has thus far been effectively limited to memory speeds of DDR4-3200. Not only that, but the supported range of options from DDR4-1866 to DDR4-3200 was in large 266MT/s increments. With AGESA 1.0.0.6, memory frequencies have not only been expanded all the way up to DDR4-4000, but between DDR4-2667 and DDR4-4000 the increments have been reduced to 133MT/s. Not only does this mean that more memory kits will be able to be run at their rated speed - and not get kicked down to the nearest supported speed - but it also significantly reduces the high-speed memory gap that the AM4 platform had with Intel's mainstream LGA1151 platform.

The other important announcement is the unlocking of about two dozen memory timings. Up until now, only five primary memory timings have been adjustable and there wasn't even a command rate option, which was natively locked to the most aggressive 1T setting. All of this should help improve overclocking and most importantly compatibility with the large swathe of DDR4 memory kits that have largely been engineered with Intel platforms in mind.
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AGESA 1006 added a monstrous amount of RAM compatibility. Here's an excerpt from Anandtech..and I quote:....

the increments have been reduced to 133MT/s. Not only does this mean that more memory kits will be able to be run at their rated speed - and not get kicked down to the nearest supported speed - but it also significantly reduces the high-speed memory gap that the AM4 platform had with Intel's mainstream LGA1151 platform.

The other important announcement is the unlocking of about two dozen memory timings. Up until now, only five primary memory timings have been adjustable and there wasn't even a command rate option, which was natively locked to the most aggressive 1T setting. All of this should help improve overclocking and most importantly compatibility with the large swathe of DDR4 memory kits that have largely been engineered with Intel platforms in mind.

I did not know about the finer increments for adjustments to mem speed! That's crazy...Gigabyte has the worst BIOS for AM4, I am convinced (I have an AB350M Gaming 3, btw). But at lease we did get those 22 or so additional parameters opened up in the last release with AGESA 1006a in it. Wow, thanks Gigabyte.
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How do you manage to get memory timing at 2800Mhz (Mtps, actually, btw)? I thought the Ryzen memory multipliers were 'fixed' at ...., 26.6x, 29.3x, 32x (2666, 2933 and 3200).

So does this board have a programmable FSB? I didn't know any B350 boards did that, much less a budget mATX like this!

Inquiring minds... lol

Oh yeah: don't be afraid to give it more volts to keep it stable.

Since Roboyto replied about 2800MHz, please let me know what "Mtps" means smile.gif))

As for the voltage, what is the max safe one for DDR4? I heard that even 1,5v is ok. I still want to try to OC my memory to 3200, but I guess I need to raise timings to up to 20+
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Since Roboyto replied about 2800MHz, please let me know what "Mtps" means smile.gif))

As for the voltage, what is the max safe one for DDR4? I heard that even 1,5v is ok. I still want to try to OC my memory to 3200, but I guess I need to raise timings to up to 20+

Same as 'Mt/s' or 'millions of transitions per second'; remember that DDR memory doesn't actually clock at 2800Mhz.

AMD is commonly referenced when recommending 1.425 volts max for a 24/7 voltage setting with 1.45 max for short duration; I take the 'short duration' thing to mean when stress testing for stability. AMD also seems to think 1.5v is safe during core boosts since that commonly happens with a fully stock 1800X in operation. That said I've read of those who run theirs upwards to 1.5v in an overclock and let it rip so long as temps are reasonably controlled.

The real problem is knowing the true core voltage. Most are reading their motherboard monitor chip and not the CPU core internal telemetry and so 'Vdroop' isn't completely accounted for. In my case, my board shows no droop whatsoever. The VCore reading seems to be directly at the output of the VRM so when it's reading 1.45V actual core voltage could be as low as 1.31V (heavily loaded) if droop is accounted for. That's pretty bad but the effect is if I set Vcore even to 1.45V the actual core voltage will be safely below 1.425 and I still get a nice 3.825G on my R7-1700. It's not hard to see what Gigabyte's idea is here.

Most other boards get a lot closer to the CPU to read the voltage so it reflects at least some of the droop but there's still going to be some safety margin that will protect your CPU from accidental over-volting.

Edit: That is, of course, referring to CPU voltage. If you're referring to DDR4 voltage I run mine at 1.35 volts to get 2993 but a lot of people run at 1.45. I saw a video by BuildZoid (a 'world class, professional overclocker') who claims DDR4 is very over-volt tolerant. He says the only time he's ever heard of someone damaging DDR4 with overvolting they were up around 1.8Volts or so, something crazy high. But that's third hand apocryphal so I wouldn't try 1.6.
Edited by buddywh - 8/22/17 at 6:37am
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