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If you put a 560 Black nemisis GTR in the loop and have fans running at 3000 rpm with pretty good static pressure... To be honest then since sound does not seem to be a problem. That rad can cool your whole system with no real problem with fans running at that speed with nice static pressure. Just add extra rads and fans if you want it to be more silent. But a 560 GTR alone is enough for your whole system.
post #12 of 22
what RPM do I need for SR2 in pull config to be optimized?
post #13 of 22
Key for the GTR at lower speed is push pull. I have 6 MLs on my 360 GTR and there is plenty of air moving through even at 800rpm.
    
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post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by Cooked CPU View Post

If you put a 560 Black nemisis GTR in the loop and have fans running at 3000 rpm with pretty good static pressure... To be honest then since sound does not seem to be a problem. That rad can cool your whole system with no real problem with fans running at that speed with nice static pressure. Just add extra rads and fans if you want it to be more silent. But a 560 GTR alone is enough for your whole system.

Sound is no problem to some extent, Having fans at 3000rpm and 60db is not very nice, the question is whether there is an average, silence in idle and performance in full.
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Key for the GTR at lower speed is push pull. I have 6 MLs on my 360 GTR and there is plenty of air moving through even at 800rpm.

Push pull and cost twice as much money biggrin.gif

What fans do you have Corsair ML120?

I've been watching the ML140 PRO but it does not convince me It also depends if I choose the GTR or GTX
post #15 of 22

Better question is: " Do you really need the GTR? "
My bet is that an GTX is really more than enough. To me the GTR is if you really want 3-4 extra degree celcius down while the fans run at max. Or if you cant fit enough or big enough rads so you need the best rad to get the heat away. In your case that is not the problem.

If I had that case I would go for the biggest rads I could get and go for the GTX with some fans running at 1000 - 1500 and be done with it. Trust me, the cooling is MORE than enough biggrin.gif you are cooling a computer, not a nuclear reactor biggrin.gif



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what RPM do I need for SR2 in pull config to be optimized?

For the SR2 you can go sub 1000rpm, you can run 600-800 rpm, no real need to go higher than 1000 imo on an SR2 since that rad is made for ultra quiet performance
You dont even need static pressure fans with 9 FPI, you can go for airflow fans also keep that in mind.


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post #16 of 22
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Better question is: " Do you really need the GTR? "
My bet is that an GTX is really more than enough. To me the GTR is if you really want 3-4 extra degree celcius down while the fans run at max. Or if you cant fit enough or big enough rads so you need the best rad to get the heat away. In your case that is not the problem.

If I had that case I would go for the biggest rads I could get and go for the GTX with some fans running at 1000 - 1500 and be done with it. Trust me, the cooling is MORE than enough biggrin.gif you are cooling a computer, not a nuclear reactor biggrin.gif
For the SR2 you can go sub 1000rpm, you can run 600-800 rpm, no real need to go higher than 1000 imo on an SR2 since that rad is made for ultra quiet performance
You dont even need static pressure fans with 9 FPI, you can go for airflow fans also keep that in mind.


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If I know you're right, but I hate painting the GTX

What worries me is the ambient temperature that in the summer is around 40º - 45º and it ends up forcing me to have to have open the case.

Which fans would recommend me for the GTX ???
post #17 of 22
40 - 45 celcius??? whf :s where do you live??

For that I would go GTR to be honest and just ramp the fans as high as it can go to get the Delta as low as possible and just sit with a headset blushsmiley.gif

Heck I would even consider a water chiller even if I was on a GTX or GTR


For what kind of fans.. Now that is in fact a tricky question. It all depends on your ears and what sound they make. And I am no expert at all when it comes to fans, there are ppl in this forum that is mutch better than me to answer that question. But I li

http://www.overclockers.com/15-case-fans-tested-ultimate-140-mm-roundup/

Read that, and pay attention at the end of that test, I really do agree with what he is saying there. There is no real 1 champ of fans.

I like EK vardar, Noctua and Be Quiet! fans. But on the other hand, I dont like Gentle Typhoon and that is a fan most ppl would say is a great if not one of the best fans out there. I dont agree cause I hate the sound of it, and I dont see any difference when it comes to cooling.
post #18 of 22
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Yes celsius, I live in Madrid, Spain

The point is that these temperatures last 2 - 3 months, i do not mind climbing the rpm when necessary, but the rest of the time I look for some silence.

I know it's difficult, I've been reading reviews for a week and I'm not making any clear conclusions, especially without deciding which radiator to use.

For now i like them

Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-2000 140mm IP67 PWM

Be quiet SilentWings 3 High Speed 140mm PWM

Corsair ML140 Pro 140mm
post #19 of 22
I see. Well as I was saying when it comes to fans and I can only speak for myself. Take every reviews out there with a pinch of salt, and what everyone else is saying like " Go with X brand cause they do X better than X but if you compare X vs X then I would say X has the upper hand "

The best review out there is yourself. Thats what I did down the line. I listen to what ppl say, I did read reviews but in the end I just went: " F... this, I am going with this brand and testing it out at MY home not in a darn lab setup " Then I saved up some money, swapped the fans out for some brand that most ppl say is the best. Guess what... they where not the best at my home in both keeping the temps dont or the noise. But for me the "safe" bets are:

Ek-Vardar, Noctua ( the industrial series ) , Be Quiet!, Noiseblocker Eloop. These 4 brands is for ME good, at MY home with MY system with MY ambient temps with MY ears. ( get the picture biggrin.gif )


So I am not going to sit here and say: The brand X is pure BS and you do best to just stay far away from them, cause in the end, it could be just that brand that is just perfect for YOU.

Just go for a fan that has high static pressure that we all can agree on unless you go for a radiator that has 9 FPI. biggrin.gif
And just test, find out.
Do you have a 280 radiator laying around of maybe one of your friends do? or even a 140 radiator? Buy 1 or 2 fans and try it on, test. Like it? then go buy all the fans you need for your complete system

Really the best advice I can give, but I am again no fan expert, but only sharing my experience. But if you ask me.. If we all had the same ears and the same taste, there would only be 1 fan brand out there. There is a reason it aint. Same with everything else there is to buy out there thumb.gif
post #20 of 22
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After much reading I am between the Vardar FF4-140 and the Noctua NF-A14 IPPC-3000 PWM and therefore mount the GTR

http://thermalbench.com/2015/08/21/noctua-nf-a14-ippc-3000-pwm-140mm-fan/4/

http://thermalbench.com/2015/08/21/ek-vardar-ff4-140-140mm-fan/

In my country the water cooling custom is practically dead this post in various forums Spanish have not had a single answer, i do not have anyone in my environment with a RL.

I will test with 3 units for the cpu circuit with a GTR 420, before mounting the graphics circuit, after that I will decide whether to mount the ones you choose in the GTR 560 or to try with others.
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