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looking to move on a new build and am just looking for some input. I've been weighing the pros and cons of both builds for a couple of days now, but I just want to be sure that i'm not missing any angles.

So I currently have what I have as seen in my showcase. I have access to a i5 6500 for 200 that I would be able to then overclock via hacked bios using my Z170A motherboard. The other option would be to dump the MB and transition to AM4. I would be looking to get the Ryzen 5 1400 with the possibility of upgrading to Ryzen+ in the future.

So basically, do I get the i5 6500 and try my hand at overclocking for 200, or should I go for a Ryzen 5 1400 CPU for 220? I use my PC primarily for gaming but also do photo and video editing on the side. Nothing professionally, just more of a hobby. I'm looking for expandability in the future and decent if not very good performance for the time being.

Any input would be greatly appreciated! thumb.gif
Edited by nakano2k1 - 4/20/17 at 7:42am
 
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If you seriously have plans to upgrade to a more powerful CPU within 1-2 yrs, then getting an AM4 platform would be better.
The R5 1400 can overclock to at least 3.8ghz without any effort, & should perform much better in any game or App that uses/supports multithreading.

If you plan on sticking with your current setup for 2yrs or more, then perhaps opting for the 6500 is better & economical choice, it should do fine in gaming & editing as well.
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post #3 of 17
stick with z170 since intel wont be dumping the socket for some time i guess? maybe find a k procesor?
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What do you think the performance difference between the i5 6500 and the R5 1400 @ 4ghz is going to look like? I know IPC and single core performance still favor the Intel CPU, but would the additional SMT cores not be more of a benefit in the long run?
 
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What do you think the performance difference between the i5 6500 and the R5 1400 @ 4ghz is going to look like? I know IPC and single core performance still favor the Intel CPU, but would the additional SMT cores not be more of a benefit in the long run?

While the R5 1400 might be a little better in some rendering workloads, I don't think it is a huge improvement over the i5 6500.

Is 200 in Canadian a good deal for the 6500? Because in Euros it would certainly be rather bad.

Since you said you would be able to overclock the i5 with a modded BIOS, I would go for that. Simply because I don't think it would be wise to buy a AM4 motherboard now, only to then ditch the CPU at the beginning of next year to buy Zen+. You can just as well ditch the 6500 at the beginning of next year and then get a whole new system with much more general experience to base a motherboard purchase off of. It is still very early for AM4. Also there might be even better AM4 board choices available by next year.

The only thing I can see, that would be an argument against this, is that the second hand resale value of your current system/6500 might a bit lower next year than it is now.

That's how I would look at it...
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Expect ryzen to be supported for 4 years. Intel tends to change sockets with every other chip set. In terms of future upgrades amd has the edge here.
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Expect ryzen to be supported for 4 years. Intel tends to change sockets with every other chip set. In terms of future upgrades amd has the edge here.

That is certainly true, but since he already owns a Z170 motherboard...
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While the R5 1400 might be a little better in some rendering workloads, I don't think it is a huge improvement over the i5 6500.

Is 200 in Canadian a good deal for the 6500? Because in Euros it would certainly be rather bad.

Since you said you would be able to overclock the i5 with a modded BIOS, I would go for that. Simply because I don't think it would be wise to buy a AM4 motherboard now, only to then ditch the CPU at the beginning of next year to buy Zen+. You can just as well ditch the 6500 at the beginning of next year and then get a whole new system with much more general experience to base a motherboard purchase off of. It is still very early for AM4. Also there might be even better AM4 board choices available by next year.

The only thing I can see, that would be an argument against this, is that the second hand resale value of your current system/6500 might a bit lower next year than it is now.

That's how I would look at it...

Yeah, i'm kinda starting to see this now. As much as I want to move to Ryzen, sticking with Intel is starting to make the most sense. 200 for a i5 6500 is actually a pretty decent price given the way the Canadian dollar is right now. The only thing i'm concerned about is that performance with the first iteration of Ryzen will continue to increase with optimizations and continued bios updates.

The stock of B350 motherboards in Canada right now are absolutely horrendous. Either they're out of stock, or poor quality or have the prices artificially inflated because of the lack of stock.
 
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That is certainly true, but since he already owns a Z170 motherboard...

If that is the case, the ryzen upgrade is not compelling enough to fork over an extra 1/3 of the intel chip.
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That is certainly true, but since he already owns a Z170 motherboard...

Yeah, but i've actually found a buy for my MB for 40 dollars more than what I paid for it. And more than what a decent b350 board would cost me. (If they ever come back in stock again)

Does anyone think there will be improved iterations of AM4 motherboards seeing that what is being sold right now are essentially direct copies from AMD reference boards?.
 
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