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post #11 of 21
Nice write up OP smile.gif .

I have a C6H, currently if a memory OC fails training, when using PState OC in UEFI :-

i) AMD CBS pages is reset.
ii) Extreme Tweaker is not reset.
iii) CPU Core Voltage Offset mode used.
iv) CPB is [Auto/Enabled] on Extreme Tweaker.

CPU will get excessive voltage.

This is down to how CPU can use PB/XFR (even at boot/in UEFI) as CPB is on and as the CPU Core Voltage Offset did not reset on Extreme Tweaker = ~1.5V to CPU in my case .

So my advice if anyone OC DISABLE CPB on Extreme Tweaker page.

On the C6H PStates page a user can see how FID/DID changes affect CPU Frequency in the grey boxes and same with VID. So far even on beta 1107 UEFI of C6H VID increase does not work.
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yes, I believe my last interaction with Asus was them saying " This will be fixed in a future BIOS update" I also noticed similar issues arising with pstate overclocking right now for some, which is why Asus told me to only change p state 0 as the other ones have caused issues. I also would like to note that there are still issues with ryzen overclocking "in that" several BIOS updates need to still happen to perfect the experience. Even Windows itself isn't optimized for ryzen which is why AMD now includes that power plan its recent drivers. I think it will take some time but both hardware vendors and even Windows 10 will catch up and smooth out the AMD experience. You have to take into consideration a lot of people are looking for ryzen to success so people are doing what they can to make that a positive experience.
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The AMD Ryzen Master Guide talks about disabling cores to achieve higher clocks for lightly threaded applications. Have you tried this? If so, did it result in higher clocks?
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I did try this, and while disabling cores did help with higher overclocks and higher memory, I didn't want to disable SMT and cores. They suggest this but what's annoying is if you then want to not play a game and run an intensive benchmark or multi-threaded app you have to reboot into bios & make changes and go back into windows, which is really annoying. I settled for my overclock without disabling cores, but yes it can help.In my opinion, wouldn't recommend it unless you're that hardcore about reaching a particular speed.
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I did try this, and while disabling cores did help with higher overclocks and higher memory, I didn't want to disable SMT and cores. They suggest this but what's annoying is if you then want to not play a game and run an intensive benchmark or multi-threaded app you have to reboot into bios & make changes and go back into windows, which is really annoying. I settled for my overclock without disabling cores, but yes it can help.In my opinion, wouldn't recommend it unless you're that hardcore about reaching a particular speed.

TBH, I don't need a massive OC. I'm upgrading from a second generation dual core processor, DDR2-800 RAM, and a Radeon HD4870 GPU. This new rig will be light years ahead. The main reason I asked is because there are still a lot of people out there saying that for games (which are mostly not highly threaded) they recommend going Intel. I was curious how the Ryzen fairs with disabled cores and a higher clock. I wouldn't do it myself, because I doubt I would see any real performance gain.
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post #16 of 21
Thank you for the write up, very well explained and now I know just a bit more to tweak certain things. I used your guide to try to overclock via pstates, first time I've tried it and so far I've been able to mimic my chips sweet spot with probably more adjustment to really get everything dialed in. I'm running at 3.8Ghz at roughly 1.35 stable, and memory is holding up at 3200mhz using G.Skill Flare x, timings 14-14-14-34.

Might be a simple and beginner question but when overclocking using pstates should I leave the default auto settings in Extreme Tweaker Main page? Then tweak the pstates? Currently I'm only using Pstate 0 however If I'd want to set the other pstates what is the proper way to set them up? Sorry for the beginner questions, just learning about all this and it can be quite overwhelming.
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Excellent question, give me some time to reply. The short answer is Nah it's a separate thing, leaving stuff to auto to my understanding will outweigh what is being done there. I would set what you want then mess with psates bc really what that is going to do is only alter pstate 0 which is affected by settings under your power management plan. That is why they created the ryzen power plan for download with the proper settings and its now got a balanced feature like regular balance for Intel chips.

Pstates are affected by % of the load on the CPU, like at 20% load run x, where x= what you set pstate 0 to. If you go to power management under windows 10 and under the processor section you will see where these values are that are affected by your pstates.
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Excellent question, give me some time to reply. The short answer is Nah it's a separate thing, leaving stuff to auto to my understanding will outweigh what is being done there. I would set what you want then mess with psates bc really what that is going to do is only alter pstate 0 which is affected by settings under your power management plan. That is why they created the ryzen power plan for download with the proper settings and its now got a balanced feature like regular balance for Intel chips.

Pstates are affected by % of the load on the CPU, like at 20% load run x, where x= what you set pstate 0 to. If you go to power management under windows 10 and under the processor section you will see where these values are that are affected by your pstates.

Ok sounds good, well this is what I did and for a couple days now I'm running pretty stable with no major issues. Thanks again for this write up, would definitely like to see a more detailed pstate overclocking guide in the future. For the minimum processor state should it be at 0%?

Also here's some stats from HWinFO64, looks like things are working as it should? Anything out of the ordinary that you can see?
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Alright, just got my parts and did some quick overclocking with mixed results.

First I made sure I'm running the latest bios and chipset drivers.

I was able to boot at 3.8 ghz 1.35v (Ryzen 5 1600) and memory at DDR4-3000 with 14-14-14-14-34 at 1.35v (I think maybe even lower volts if i tried). Won't boot at DDR4-3200 though. I even tried loosening timings up to 15-15-15-15-36, but failed to boot. I'll have to do some stress testing tomorrow when I have more time (I'm too tired now). I also tried setting the SOC voltage to 1.2, but it didn't seem to help. Any other thoughts?

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4077MHz my chip with 1.385v. But Im looking around for some binned one 4150-4200MHz.
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