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Hey guys got my 1600 up to 3.8ghz 1.325v seems solid. Now I have no idea where to start on memory over clocking. I have the flarex 2400mhz kit, how far can I go? And how do I get there lol. I appreciate it.
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What cpu stress did you do to test the 3.8 ghz? If so, how much this please? I can only run 3.8ghz on 1.36 to be stable in prime95.
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What cpu stress did you do to test the 3.8 ghz? If so, how much this please? I can only run 3.8ghz on 1.36 to be stable in prime95.
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What do you guys think the likelihood of getting 1600x to 4 or 4.1 is
I think that 4.0 is almost guaranteed, it's just a matter of voltage and temperature.

I have a 1600x with a Noctua air cooler. At 4.0GHz, looks like I need around 1.41 volts, possibly more. I've had some conflicting test results, though. I ran about an hour of prime95 at 4GHz @ 1.41V (reading 1.392 - 1.404 in CPU-Z), with LLC on level 2, no crashes. The next day, I decided to re-run that test, same settings across the board - P95 crashed my system within about 10 seconds. confusedsmiley.png So what gives? I guess I need even more Vcore. I'm sure that if I upped Vcore to around 1.45V, all would be good. The problem is, I don't really feel comfortable running that kind of Vcore long term. Maybe it's totally fine, I have no idea. Furthermore, temps are getting a bit too hot for my taste at full load (getting ~72C).

The 1600X, when left at stock settings, will dial up one core to almost 4.1GHz when it needs to, for short bursts. I've seen this happen via CPU-Z and Ryzen Master. The Vcore is also increased to 1.5V for that short burst.

Now this leads me into another topic that I've seen many of you chatting about: Pstates and Windows / Ryzen balanced power plans. I have not been able to get my chip to downclock, ever, unless I leave it at stock settings. Whenever I touch the CPU multiplier, the processor state options in Windows flat out disappear. CPU freq and Vcore remain stuck all the time, regardless of load. This is really putting me off. I'd like to keep an OC of 3.9 - 4 ballpark, but I find myself reverting to defaults at the end of every OC session, prior to actually using my computer to play games, because I don't want it sitting at max all the time.
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Aida64

Aida64 seems stable for me, but prime95 keeps failing frown.gif I need to rise the voltage to 1.36 at 3800 ghz in order to pass prime95. If you have the change can you also try in prime95 nex time.
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What do you guys think the likelihood of getting 1600x to 4 or 4.1 is
I think that 4.0 is almost guaranteed, it's just a matter of voltage and temperature.

I have a 1600x with a Noctua air cooler. At 4.0GHz, looks like I need around 1.41 volts, possibly more. I've had some conflicting test results, though. I ran about an hour of prime95 at 4GHz @ 1.41V (reading 1.392 - 1.404 in CPU-Z), with LLC on level 2, no crashes. The next day, I decided to re-run that test, same settings across the board - P95 crashed my system within about 10 seconds. confusedsmiley.png So what gives? I guess I need even more Vcore. I'm sure that if I upped Vcore to around 1.45V, all would be good. The problem is, I don't really feel comfortable running that kind of Vcore long term. Maybe it's totally fine, I have no idea. Furthermore, temps are getting a bit too hot for my taste at full load (getting ~72C).

The 1600X, when left at stock settings, will dial up one core to almost 4.1GHz when it needs to, for short bursts. I've seen this happen via CPU-Z and Ryzen Master. The Vcore is also increased to 1.5V for that short burst.

Now this leads me into another topic that I've seen many of you chatting about: Pstates and Windows / Ryzen balanced power plans. I have not been able to get my chip to downclock, ever, unless I leave it at stock settings. Whenever I touch the CPU multiplier, the processor state options in Windows flat out disappear. CPU freq and Vcore remain stuck all the time, regardless of load. This is really putting me off. I'd like to keep an OC of 3.9 - 4 ballpark, but I find myself reverting to defaults at the end of every OC session, prior to actually using my computer to play games, because I don't want it sitting at max all the time.
few things on this.

@chew* has been very active and seems very knowledgeable ( he was a reviewer i believe ) he said with the 8 cores you are almost guaranteed 3.7 - 4 ghz, but the 4 cores ( iirc, if not then the 6 and 4 ) have been all over the place ( he has multiple chips ) from 3.4 - 3.9 ( again iirc )

ryzen WILL NOT downlock when overclocked. via multi ( and i assume -- FSB )

you have to OC via pstates to get it to oc with downclocking ( iirc there are 2 or 3 board that can- i think the giga boards ( assume the x370 ) the crosshair, and iirc the killer.... there may be more since release that can i dont know. )

you have to use the correct version of prime ...... i dont know the correct one though off my head sorry. but i personally applaud you for wanting to be prime stable !!!!

as to the person talking about memory clocking. generally you want to manually set all timings then ( with ryzen in general ) you baby step to the proper speed ( IE for 3200 you oc to 2400 then 2667 then 2933 then 3200 ..... with boots in between for memory training
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Chew says 29.1 tick blend 90% of system ram.

Here is the link:

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/prime95/
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Has anyone ran RealBench?

Just wondering if the very test takes forever to start?

EDIT: Here is what I'm talking about:

Realbench did the same thing on my i7-2600 rig. If you run Realbench a second time straight after, it starts much faster as it seems to cache the gimp setup files

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Yeh I am sending the corsair fans back, I paid almost 50 bucks for 3 fans and they barely move any air at all. The two on the top are setup to exhaust air through the top and pull the heat radiating off the graphics card (which is overclocked and you could fry eggs on) and there is virtually zero air moving through that grate at the top. Even with the honey comb in the rear of the case the AF120 there barely moves anything. Gonna throw a SP120 high static pressure fan at the bottom there and go with two cheaper fans at the top for 10 bucks. Found these on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JZ02CEM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and I like the frame design, the corsairs with how open their frame design seem like they are just blowing the air back down through the case when they encounter resistance above them.

I've bought and used a lot of fans.....and without a doubt...the GT's have been the best. If I had to buy something different, I would probably go with the EK Vardar. I've never had any of those, but the reviews I've read have been solid. I bought the high RPM GT's, I think they were like 22-25.00 each, can't remember now. They are heavy and quiet. I'm not sure how long I've been using them.

They are 22.95 on Amazon.....that's about what I paid. They are high $$, but well worth it in my opinion.

https://www.amazon.com/Nidec-Servo-GentleTyphoon-120mm-D1225C12B6ZPA-64/dp/B017UX9DRA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493167713&sr=1-2&keywords=gentle+typhoon

EDIT: That is what I paid each. I bought them in December of 2015. biggrin.gif

Vardars are not the best of the best that some of the Youtubers would lead you to believe. They are about as good as the Corsair SP fans and not as good as the cooler master fans used on the master liquid pro coolers it would seem.

 

The graph in the linked page is quite informative, comparing vardars at 12 and 7.5v against each coolers' stock fans at 12v. The Vardars are not certainly not rubbish and are better than some but if compared to corsair SPs then there is not really much, if any, difference in performance

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/kaby_lake_7700k_5ghz_aio_cooler_mega_test/4

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This is a really crappy picture of this through the side window but I just installed this "Jonsbo" ( i know right) fan i picked up off amazon for 20 bucks, i wanted something to add a little bit more light to the inside of the case through the small window side, but i didnt want anything to ostentatious. This thing is awesome, gives off a really cool effect. Ill be sure to get better pictures of the setup assuming I ever get the bequiet AM4 bracket in the mail. rolleyes.gif

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