Originally Posted by Pyrotagonist
The roadmap from Capsaicin showed it slated for release in the middle of 2017; everything since has said H1 2017. Not seeing a delay here.
You seriously still believe in AMD roadmaps? They are optimistic guesses at best. Tells nothing about the actual plans. If you really belive the gap between Polaris and Vega was planned, you better rethink the whole situation. Something happend and Vega did not hold what it should deliver on paper. When I see the power and heatspike of the RX500 series I start to link it to GlobalFoundry's 14nm tech.
Originally Posted by Shadowarez
well i love GALAX they release single slot cards they just dropped the 1070 wich is sick, dont see alot of the big players release single slot at all, maybe Volta will bring that back since it should be seriously power efficient, but wait for first 2nd Titan release though, then oyoud be good for awhile if it least uses HBM2.
I am healead from my 1-slot, low-profile or passive cooled addiction. Just a good enough dual-slot cooler,not too long, maybe ITX compatible is all I need these days. Volta is hopefully another wave of smaller cooling solutions. Everything from below 20nm has been way too big for what it should have been. I see cards like the 1070 in ITX formats. Yet mostly all cards, even mid-range like the Rx500 series have this big oversized jung attached to them. Some even 2.5 to 3 slots. If this nonsense goes on, we need an extra case just for the graphcis card
Originally Posted by prznar1
In my country they did drop, and i bet they will drop another bit after 2000 release but i dont expect a sudden drop of price by 90%. unreal.
the Launch of whatever the 2000-series will be. If Q3 is correct this could last another 6 months of waiting. Until then no further price drops should occur. If Vega arrives withing this time, my prediction is of course adaptable to the new market situation.
Originally Posted by Tobiman
Polaris is running way more voltage than needed out of the box. How does the 470 consume similar power to a 1060 but the 480 is such a stark contrast despite only having 15% more cores? I'm not saying Pascal isn't still more efficient but the gap isn't as wide as you think and If Nvidia didn't encrypt the pascal bios, it would probably take in a lot more juice for not a lot more clocks as well.
Tobiman, your same argument comes in almost every thread. Fact is that the Radeons have a bad manufacturing quality, so the voltage has to be risen in general to guarantee mass-procution. If the buyer has to tinker around with the voltage or other stuff, it is a flaw of the product. The RX470 is way weaker than a GTX1060, so that is no real argument. Pascal is indeed more effective because it does more than AMD counterparts, but with a smaller chip size. In case you tell me again this is not "efficient", please add a manuel for your new laws of physics.
GCN was never bult for high clocks. Therefore it has more cores. This doesn't change over night. Increasing the clocks just raises heat and power consumption as we can see with the RX500-series. The smaller Vega-series will not replcase Polaris till 2018 according to AMDs own roadmap. If Volta adds to the capabilities of Pascal, AMD is in for deep trouble in all segments.
Originally Posted by Tobiman
One thing I will say is that Vega can only get better than Polaris and at 225w TDP. Given the new power saving features that Pascal already has, I wouldn't be surprised if Vega is more efficient.
I don't trust the usual AMD "we are x-times more efficient" nonsense when they just increased the TDP of Polaris 2.0 to 185W TDP. To beat a GTX 1080 AMD has to double the performance of a RX480. Doing this with just 40W more seems a bit too much of a stretch. Either this is not true in the end or Polaris was just a horrible chip-series.