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At this point I don't know either. .
You should have stopped there. BECAUSE
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AMD is not getting their game together lateley. Of course I could be completely wrong. But the past years match too much with what I say. The underdog turning everything around in a mirracle just doesn't work in science. It's a fairy tail and doesn't belong to hard facts.
Do fairies have tails? I got no idea. But here is a fairy tale for you. AMD Ryzen. You know. That (AMD) underdog turning everything around in a miracle that is Ryzen. And based on hard fact, no less.

Cut AMD some slack. For sure AMD are on a shoe string budget and maybe some prioritizing was in order. The focus of late had been Ryzen. And got to admit what they have produced with Ryzen is spectacular compared to where they were (and BTW, that Ryzen also beats anything Nvidia has /j).

As to what Vega has to offer, I have no clue. But alll bets are off. Ryzen proves AMD can pull rabbits out of their hats.
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With the SK Hynix DDR6 announcement, I doubt we see the big/fast Volta's until 2018.
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I think that when people say Q1/Q2/etc. they generally mean quarters of the calendar year rather than the fiscal year. If it's the fiscal year, then yeah Vega would be late based on that rumor, but I don't know exactly where it came from.

Regardless, I think there have been a lot of rumors indicating a May release of Vega, and coupled with the leaks, demos and the release of the 500 series, it seems pretty likely.


I don't follow, i was talking about actual quarters, Q1 is January to March Q2 is April to June, nothing too particular. Anyway, if it's true what's been rumored several times now, Computex will be the time, and Computex starts 30th May and lasts till June 3rd, so it would be still in 1H. We're pretty close, and they better not let us down.

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As to what Vega has to offer, I have no clue. But alll bets are off. Ryzen proves AMD can pull rabbits out of their hats.

Rabbits yes, not miracles tho, ryzen is nothing revolutionary or incredible, it's just a good chip at a far better price than the competition
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Nvidia release volta in near sept might not be fake.

Maxwell was released in sept after titan black appeared in February.

True. The 3rd to 4th quarter have been quite release dates for new Geforce archs. End of September anouncements happened, then October and November launches too. Quesiton is which segment is delivered first. Maybe a 2070 and 2080 first to cover the early adopters and then bring everything else between January and March 2018. There would be the big Volta and / or the entry to mid-range cards of the 2050's to 2060's.

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Yeah an r9 290x has 400% nearly over 980 on fp64. Nvidia had the money to make and sell us gaming gpus, amd continued to sell workstation cards with gaming drivers hence the power savings. I get the feeling you dont know what your talking about for the most part.

Irrelevant. Both GV100 and GP100 are comparable because they both already have the same environment and using HBM2 too. The only thing changed is the architecture. Getting such gains within one generation is not an easy feat. I mentioned the improvements from the workstaion segment might not all reach the gaming side. Yet not all of that will be lost and there could still be significant more performance than Pascal.

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You should have stopped there. BECAUSE

Alot of guys should stop here. So many reasons why ...!
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Do fairies have tails? I got no idea. But here is a fairy tale for you.

Corrected, I should stop reading manga while writing posts. But thanks for the nitpicking. redface.gif


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AMD Ryzen. You know. That (AMD) underdog turning everything around in a miracle that is Ryzen. And based on hard fact, no less.

Ryzen is not that impressive and still full of children diseases, but I admit it is good for the prices. I am not buying any Intel either this year, just to clarify my point here. I wait for 2018 when PCI-Express 4.0 and real 10nm comes along. My choice could be an Intel then, because I think Ryzen can not keep up in the long run. For the CPU / Mainboard, I can seriously wait. My system is good enough.

AMD put all their ressources into this CPU series and neglected other areas like the Radeon Technology Group. It's a one time success and can not be repeated over and over. Yet you guys expect that.


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Cut AMD some slack. For sure AMD are on a shoe string budget and maybe some prioritizing was in order. The focus of late had been Ryzen. And got to admit what they have produced with Ryzen is spectacular compared to where they were (and BTW, that Ryzen also beats anything Nvidia has /j).

Why give them some slack? They are a company and as a potential buyer I expect their best game, not to be patronize them. Ryzen is not a GPU and I coudn't care less. If I want to game and there is not even a single high-end product available, what does the fastest CPU bring me then. AMD is killing their company with stupid managemtn decisions for years. The disaster with Bulldozer came from their own ignorance and now all divisions have to bleed for their mistakes.

I know this is hard for any AMD fan to suck up, though it is time to get real and critisize AMD for their shortcomings. Otherwise nothing will change. Stop being trapped in nostalgia and apply the same criterias you would do for any other company.
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As to what Vega has to offer, I have no clue. But alll bets are off. Ryzen proves AMD can pull rabbits out of their hats.

Ryzen proves nothing, as I already said. Totally different piece of hardware. Intel has been pulling their punches. Nvidia is not that nice and will go full steam ahead because they have to satisfy their stock holders and keep on their ongoing growing spurt.

Vega is a strange product. Tell me what I should think of a marketing,t hat tells me this specific procut "has a brain ... and a soul". If you have nothing to say, better be quiet AMD. Bring the damn thing and we can finally talk facts, not faith alone.
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I don't follow, i was talking about actual quarters, Q1 is January to March Q2 is April to June, nothing too particular. Anyway, if it's true what's been rumored several times now, Computex will be the time, and Computex starts 30th May and lasts till June 3rd, so it would be still in 1H. We're pretty close, and they better not let us down.
Rabbits yes, not miracles tho, ryzen is nothing revolutionary or incredible, it's just a good chip at a far better price than the competition

 

Which is all Vega 10 has to be to succeed. That's not out of the question considering the fact that RTG is giving Vega much more time in the oven relative to Polaris. We got Polaris because AMD had to do something and their midrange stack was even older than their high-end stack (Fiji didn't get much love, but it was technically new). If Vega can give us anything near a Titan X Pascal Part 1 or a 1080 Ti and it costs $550 USD, those cards will fly off the shelves.

 

It's funny seeing some people downplay the workstation and HPC aspects as well. Those are the markets that provide loads of revenue which can be used for R&D on all projects - not just workstation stuff. I don't think Vega will disappoint as a gaming card, because Lisa Su has made gaming one of the three pillars in her approach to rebuilding AMD. That said, there's nothing wrong with scalability for multiple workloads if you can pull it off a la Ryzen/Naples.

     
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Which is all Vega 10 has to be to succeed. That's not out of the question considering the fact that RTG is giving Vega much more time in the oven relative to Polaris. We got Polaris because AMD had to do something and their midrange stack was even older than their high-end stack (Fiji didn't get much love, but it was technically new). If Vega can give us anything near a Titan X Pascal Part 1 or a 1080 Ti and it costs $550 USD, those cards will fly off the shelves.

It's funny seeing some people downplay the workstation and HPC aspects as well. Those are the markets that provide loads of revenue which can be used for R&D on all projects - not just workstation stuff. I don't think Vega will disappoint as a gaming card, because Lisa Su has made gaming one of the three pillars in her approach to rebuilding AMD. That said, there's nothing wrong with scalability for multiple workloads if you can pull it off a la Ryzen/Naples.

I said over a year ago that I believed people would be pleasantly surprised with the performance and pricing of Zen when it came out and I believe that AMD will pull off a similar feat with Vega. It will probably fall short of 1080Ti performance but it will be closer than people are expecting. I also am sure that AMD will attempt to undercut Nvidia pricing just like they did with Ryzen. We will see...
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Just lol. Glad I sent my Xp back and stepped away from PC gaming for good. What a joke this industry has become with milking its customers.
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I don't follow, i was talking about actual quarters, Q1 is January to March Q2 is April to June, nothing too particular. Anyway, if it's true what's been rumored several times now, Computex will be the time, and Computex starts 30th May and lasts till June 3rd, so it would be still in 1H. We're pretty close, and they better not let us down.
Sorry, I didn't read the post closely.
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