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that video was made in January any update on this
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Guess what? If you buy a high-end GPU, the powers that be will have something way faster out within a year.

This is how it's been for a long long time, and it isn't going to change anytime soon. Stop being shocked and appalled, people.
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I have seen enough overheating PCs in my life from users that got advice like yours. You would seriously attach a card like a RX580 with 180 to 250W power consumption (not TDP!) to a 400-450W PSU? This is seriously dangerous. The rest of your components would have no powerroom left, resulting in said PC to shut down at higher load or worse start to burn. This is even insane with 80+ quality PSU in this category. Most Computers out there have cheap China components built in.

The only category where it could work is with cards under 75 power consumpiton (=no power connector) like the GTX 750 Ti / 950 / 1050 Ti or RX460.

If you don't believe me, look it up at AMD themselves. They reccommend a 450W PSU for a new RX560(!).
https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-560.
AMD overstates the requirements because you find the low-quality useless ones at that low wattage.



The most you get out of an RX 580 is 360W and this is a system with a 4.2GHz 4960X. 450W is plenty. The idea that only a 750 Ti can run off 400-450W is ridiculous. Those can run off 300W (assuming that it actually provides that) no sweat. Seriously, AT's 1050 Ti system (again, with a 4.2GHz 4960X) doesn't even hit 200W.
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Not sure why.
Just decide once a GPU is out, how much of the performance increase is worth for you to upgrade. If you upgrade every time you gain 20% increase in performance, upgrade. If you prefer to wait for a 50%+, upgrade then. If you upgrade only when you actually have the need to, upgrade when you need to, not when ever a new GPU series comes out.

Agreed. I originally was an "upgrade as soon as something new comes out" buyer. My first dedicated GPU was a 560Ti (which I got because I originally wanted a 460 but the 560Ti dropped right when I was buying parts so i got it). Then I bought a second one for SLI. Then I decided I needed the best and got a pair of 580 Lightnings. Then the 7970 laid waste to Big Fermi so I got a couple of Lightning versions of them. Then I decided i wanted to get into custom water and swapped them out for reference 7970's with blocks. Then the first Titan dropped so I had to get them under water next. Then things changed radically. For the first time I wasn't keen on ditching my bios-flashed Titans for the more locked down 780Ti's and when the 980Ti finally launched I figured I'd get a pair of them to replace my OG Titans but that never happened. Then the 1080's launched and I still could not justify upgrading. And now with the 1080Ti out I am officially broke and couldn't afford them even if I did want to. Honestly I've had these Titans for so long now and have finally realized that with my 60Hz monitors there's just no sense in upgrading them because they still do fine in the games I play (and i don't bench anymore).

At the end of the day I really think my switch to custom water stunted my upgrade itch. Its just such a pain to even consider changing out hardware now and the expense is magnified because you have to factor in the cost of blocks with the price of the cards themselves. I am planning a completely new Ryzen build sometime this year though so I will finally retire these Titans whenever that happens. I won't be going expensive flagship cards anymore though just because of budgetary concerns and because I just don't need that kind of power. A couple of 1080's would be way more than enough (really 1070's would be more likely in my current thinking).
post #95 of 198
Chuckling (you either love the comments in threads like these, or, well, risk having an aneurysm).

Anyway, with pricing of last year's cards dropping for what should be obvious reasons, I just bought a second 1080 myself to go with my new build. I could have bought a 1080Xp, or even a couple of 1080 ti's, but also want to pick up a somewhat sound oscope as well. Additionally, my subtle nuances include a preference to wait until a product is somewhat mature before investing my hard earned in cash in it, regardless of what "somewhat mature" might be interpreted as now-a-days.

Volta? Perhaps, maybe 2nd or even 3rd gen, but the chickens haven't even hatched yet. Which reminds me, I've got to order a bigger power supply. biggrin.gif
post #96 of 198
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Chuckling (you either love the comments in threads like these, or, well, risk having an aneurysm).

Anyway, with pricing of last year's cards dropping for what should be obvious reasons, I just bought a second 1080 myself to go with my new build. I could have bought a 1080Xp, or even a couple of 1080 ti's, but also want to pick up a somewhat sound oscope as well. Additionally, my subtle nuances include a preference to wait until a product is somewhat mature before investing my hard earned in cash in it, regardless of what "somewhat mature" might be interpreted as now-a-days.

Volta? Perhaps, maybe 2nd or even 3rd gen, but the chickens haven't even hatched yet. Which reminds me, I've got to order a bigger power supply. biggrin.gif

Dude I'd be 110% happy with two 1080's for a long while. That's serious performance right there and as you mentioned at not an unreasonable amount of money these days. I too am considering picking up a pair of cheap 1080's to finally retire my very old Titans when I build my Ryzen rig. Unless I decide to upgrade displays I don't see a couple of 1080's being inadequate for a long time.
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Words of wisdom from a person that purchased a 1080 and is now mad at 1080ti.

Sure pal. I am not pissed or butt hurt about the Ti at all. Everyone knows a Ti happens. I was not willing to wait since at the time of launch for the 1080. I was coming from a 960 and moved up to 1440p g-sync monitor as well at the same time. So it was a big upgrade at the time and justified in my case. I do care about Volta though and that has my interest.
post #98 of 198
If gtx 2070 turn out to be as fast or even faster than a titan Xp out of the box.

I am equally sure gtx 2060 should match a gtx 1080. Like how 1060 did to gtx 980


That being said, such positive outlook in performance wont come this fast. So hold your breathe till 2018 (in short high chance this rumor is not true)
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Just lol. Glad I sent my Xp back and stepped away from PC gaming for good. What a joke this industry has become with milking its customers.

Good you've finally figure this out. Titan X, 1080 Ti and Titan Xp all happened in less than a year which is ridiculous. And if Volta just came out less than a year from 1080 Ti and Titan Xp and being significantly faster than those $700-1200 graphics cards while being cheaper is just great.
Nvidia milking the market more than ever. I do not blame them alone though, as they see people dropping ridiculous amounts of money on those cards, and willing to buy them even if those cards are 3 months apart.
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If gtx 2070 turn out to be as fast or even faster than a titan Xp out of the box.

I am equally sure gtx 2060 should match a gtx 1080. Like how 1060 did to gtx 980


That being said, such positive outlook in performance wont come this fast. So hold your breathe till 2018 (in short high chance this rumor is not true)

The 1070 is not as fast as a Maxwell Titan when both are OC'd and it had the advantage of a massive node shrink. I don't think a 2070 on the same node will be as fast as a Titan Xp. Could be wrong but we'll see.
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