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The thing is that the KBL-X part is dual channel - so basically a 7700K on X299.

It's a nonsensical chip by all metrics.

Maybe there's a 4 core E5 ECC capable Xeon and they're rebranding it "X" ? rolleyes.gif

Yeah I'm reaching...
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I guess I'm a little confused what you're trying to say.

If you want to talk about X79, they released the 3930K and 3960X along with a 3820 which was compatible with 2011, had all 40 lanes and quad channel memory capability even though it was a 4 core CPU.

So is it so far out there for them to release Skylake X on X299 and a Kabylake X compatible with X299 but is limited to 24 PCIe lanes but has access to quad channel memory? This gives 4, 6, 8, and 10 core CPUs on X299.

24 lanes is the chipset, like Z170 and Z270. Any CPU should get access to those lanes. I would hope anyway. Kaby Lake-X here is dual-channel, not quad, like the 7700K.

The comparison is good though. Intel is releasing HEDT, Xeon-derived Skylake CPUs. On this same socket, the rumor claims that a Kaby Lake release with specs mostly identical to the existing 7700K would exist.

The comparison is good because this would be similar to Intel a few years ago releasing Sandy Bridge-E on X79 (like they did of course) but also simultaneously porting the already-existing Ivy Bridge-K (or H? Can't remember what 115X chips are codenamed) 3770K to X79 as well. This is inappropriate since these boards aren't really designed for CPUs with such limited I/O.

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The thing is that the KBL-X part is dual channel - so basically a 7700K on X299.

It's a nonsensical chip by all metrics.

Basically that yeah.
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How come up to Ryzen this whole ECC was not relevant for home use and now all of a sudden it is? ECC memory is still at a disadvantage compared to normal memory and does not clock as well. When everyone here on OCN starts running stuff for the CIA or DOJ, then I will understand the need for ECC, but this is an OC board with people who build machines for gaming, editing, pretty much any activity where ECC memory has no tangible benefits.

Are we using ECC as a way to throw dirt on INTEL's new products? Are we still that naïve in thinking that AMD has an influence on the market? If INTEL deems that the consumer needs ECC at home, they will add it to the package. Until then, AMD is a little fish with no say in this.

Give AMD time to get back to their glory days and mean something in the IT world and then they can push ECC with loads of support. Until then, stop making ECC happen for consumers, it won't happen tongue.gif!
 
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How come up to Ryzen this whole ECC was not relevant for home use and now all of a sudden it is? ECC memory is still at a disadvantage compared to normal memory and does not clock as well. When everyone here on OCN starts running stuff for the CIA or DOJ, then I will understand the need for ECC, but this is an OC board with people who build machines for gaming, editing, pretty much any activity where ECC memory has no tangible benefits.

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Give AMD time to get back to their glory days and mean something in the IT world and then they can push ECC with loads of support. Until then, stop making ECC happen for consumers, it won't happen tongue.gif!

 

Still going on about that? Life moves on.

   
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NAS server?

Perhaps, however, operating systems such as FreeNAS don't play well with AMD. Not that it doesn't work but to get all the features such as virtualization and other stability aspects, it's just not worth going AMD even though you get ECC, especially when you can get atom processors that support up to 64GB of ECC memory or Xeon DE processors that support up to 128 and of course dual processor boards that support hundreds of gigabytes of memory. wink.gif
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post #27 of 187
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From what I've seen the Kaby Lake-X CPU's will get same PCIe lanes as the mainstream platform.

I don't see the point of these CPU's either.. Who go HEDT platform and use Kaby Lake-X

If rumour is true Coffee Lake will even get 6C/12T on the "mainstream" platform..


Kaby Lake X was designed without Ryzen in mind. Now its too late to scrape. They know they are screwed for this but they will have to release it anyway.


Maybe for $200? Who knows?
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Basically that yeah.


Beside no iGPU and no pigeon poop. Yeah its more likely the same 7700K with just higher clock (possible with increased TDP).
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Still going on about that? Life moves on.
he's got fewer and fewer straws to grasp at lately
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I assume everyone has ECC on their Ryzen rig, yeah?

The point is that you have the option. Some of us want it. I have ECC memory installed in my Zen rig.
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