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I dont think so this time, ryzen is crushing their 6900k badly at $400-500. Just not likely.

$300
$350
$600
$1000
$1500

That is my guess.

Skl/Kaby is different from BW-E. There's gonna be 5%-6% IPC boost over BW-E + ~200Mhz OC clock boost. That should take care of any Ryzen threat.

Edit:- That said, as a consumer, I will take as low prices as I can get. biggrin.gif
Edited by rt123 - 4/21/17 at 11:13am
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you could have save yourself all that typing and just say intel is all you will ever buy, it ok to be honest. thumb.gif

I see the truth hurts.

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I think people forget that Ryzen's performance is hit and miss in some workloads and especially games. Intel delivers stable performance in everything.

This is why I skipped 1st generation Ryzen CPU's (also because of very low overclocking potential).
Probably going to pick up a 6-8 core Skylake-X instead. Coffee Lake 6 core would also be interesting.
And Intel's HEDT platform literally costs 2-3x as a comparable Ryzen system.
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And Intel's HEDT platform literally costs 2-3x as a comparable Ryzen system.

Your point?
NVIDIA released pascal, 1080ti, pascal XP and everytime shelves were empty. People will buy it because it is the best thing on the market. When AMD will be the best thing on the market, they will charge the same. FX 52-54 days when the chip was 800 pounds!!
 
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And Intel's HEDT platform literally costs 2-3x as a comparable Ryzen system.

In lots of workloads even 7700K beats Ryzen 1700-1800X. So.

Moar cores is not always the answer. If just Ryzen could hit 4.5+ it would look different. But it can't.

Ryzen is "cheap" for a reason. It's decent, not truly great. Intel still got the upper hand.
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In lots of workloads even 7700K beats Ryzen 1700-1800X. So.

Moar cores is not always the answer. If just Ryzen could hit 4.5+ it would look different. But it can't.

Ryzen is "cheap" for a reason. It's decent, not truly great. Intel still got the upper hand.
Mostly the same workloads it beats the 6900k in, and that is still $1k.
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Unfortunately until AMD puts out a Ryzen chip and chipset with quad+ channel memory, 40+ CPU PCIe lanes and one that can OC handily without subzero, Intel is going to feel very little pressure in the HEDT space. As things stand, Intel is still the best if youre just looking for the biggest ballin'est system that can do all the things. Just like the last couple releases, AMD is trying to hit a pricing target, they aren't aiming (or at least not succeeding) at tearing down Intel's top end.
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That's what X399 is for.

   
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intel-x299.jpg 138k .jpg file

- New brand for HEDT: Intel Core™ X-Series Processor Family
- May 30: Announcement at Intel's Computex Keynote by Senior Vice President of Client Computing Group (CCG) Navin Shenoy
- Reviews: 12 days later (June 11/12?)
- June 26: Official retail launch date
- Skylake-X: up to 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes, ranging from 6C/12T to 12C/24T (140W TDP) / Kaby Lake-X: up to 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes, 4C/8T (112W TDP)

https://benchlife.info/intel-x299-will-announce-by-navin-in-computex-2017-keynote-04212017
Well your translation doesn't align with the pictures only with the text so which one is right text or pictures or none?
Again same as previous x?9 platforms, but now Intel will allow lower core count chips in it? Are Xeons gonna be blocked from consumer boards and chipsets again like Intel did after the Xeon 1230 wide consumer usage instead of overpriced i7s?
It still doesn't have ECC, Ryzen does, all of them and it's up to the motherboard you buy.
6C and 8C on a premium platform? Not premium anymore at all. 8C is $329 now, wouldn't pay more than $350 for it.
Need to milk more money from the silicon so they cut down the 10C or 12C now finally? Chips all the way to 4C only? In past they have been doing this for some high clock big cache Xeons for specific enterprise use. Consumer wise? Quite worthless.
Also still at 140W TDP? At 14nm? Quite high. Ryzen is designed for lower TDP and keeps up just fine, plus all CPUs are soldered even the low core count variants unlike Intel CPUs that use a toothpaste on non premium platform.

Sorry Intel but you're gonna have to try harder with what you offer and for what price.
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Unfortunately until AMD puts out a Ryzen chip and chipset with quad+ channel memory, 40+ CPU PCIe lanes and one that can OC handily without subzero, Intel is going to feel very little pressure in the HEDT space. As things stand, Intel is still the best if youre just looking for the biggest ballin'est system that can do all the things. Just like the last couple releases, AMD is trying to hit a pricing target, they aren't aiming (or at least not succeeding) at tearing down Intel's top end.

The only reason they are missing Intel's top end is because of clockspeed & lackluster mem support. Apparently new AGESA code next month specifically to fix mem OC.

As for clockspeed, that is a process node limitation & will need a new stepping. Maybe X399 CPUs will have that? AMD is good with new steppings. See 8350->9590->8370.

Although if I'm being honest, this is too soon for a new stepping. redface.gif But you never know.
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