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Another personal preference, I was using Dell's G-Sync monitors and the TN colors didn't bother me. I've used a bunch of different monitors in the last year, ranging from the Acer 32" 4k G-Sync down to the Dell 24" 2k G-Sync and now the Dell 27" IPS. I am starting to dabble in video and photos so I was curious how much better a calibrated IPS could be. It looks great, but I really miss the TN for gaming.

Hard to say which might be more important to you and fit your taste, maybe I should have went IPS G-Sync, the grass is always greener on the other side though.

I think you will be pretty stoked either way you go though.
post #32 of 76
If i where you i would save up for an Asus PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU

I get that you dont have unlimited money but instead of making a compromise and get something with flaws limits or something you dont like do it right the first time around and you wont regert it later

Keep your old 1080P monitor untill you have the funds for a full on 1440P IPS 165 hz monitor with Nvidia G Sync like either the Asus PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU
A really good high end and expensive monitor is going to last for a very long time so its really not something you need to think about upgrading unless you got money to burn.

Edit: as an IPS owner i can say for sure that i would personally never buy another TN panel monitor
Edited by shilka - 4/24/17 at 3:58pm
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AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8-Core
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK AM4
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Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 2.5" 1TB
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ASUS MG279Q Black 27" IPS 144 Hz 4ms Adaptive-Sync (Free Sync)

I have kept this build I'm on for almost five years or over now, and I like to keep the build about 6 years, so I just hope this 1700 will do that just fine for me as all I do is game, watch youtube, twitch, movies etc.

If current performance trends continue, I think a 3770k would go another few years no problem. I just moved from a 3770k to a 6800k a couple months ago and I think the 3770k was still doing fine and wasn't really worth it. There was no groundbreaking upgrades to game FPS. The only reason I even considered moving to a different CPU was because a friend needed a new gaming pc so I sold them mine.

You could just pick up a 1080ti, 1TB SSD, and Asus PG279Q and still get the same experience with maybe 5% less FPS. Then swap out the CPU later so your not compromising on the monitor in any way.
post #34 of 76
Sorry if I'm stuck in eternal confusion over here... but why are you buying a 1700 for streaming, gaming, and movie watching? You could accomplish all that with an i3... absolutely with an i5. Again, the more cash you have left over is yours for whatever you could possibly want- be it games, movies, money for subbing on twitch... a nice 4K panel for watching movies... but it's your choice, and I'm sure this is something you've thought about. Just letting you know that a 1700 is way over the top for what you mentioned, whether you knew that or didn't. Obviously can't go wrong with too much power, though wink.gif

Anyway, to get it clear one last time: this is now a 2.5K gaming rig, not a 4K one... so that means no use for a 1080Ti, at least with your current rig plan. Can always upgrade in the future...

Please get an M.2 SSD, they're fabulous. I'm waiting to get one soon and it means near-instant boot speeds.

As for the 3770k... that's not a bad idea. In gaming workloads it's the GPU that takes the toll...Shaded War has a very good point. I'd really consider that.
post #35 of 76
We talked him out of getting a 4K monitor for multiple reasons
First off there is problem of 4K being wasted on anything less then 30 inchs and then there is the problem of even a GTX 1080 Ti having problems running games in 4K

4K gaming is just not ready yet and 120+ Hz 1440P is a much better option
As for M.2 SSD´s they are completely wasted for gaming rigs as games just dont use anywhere close the the full M.2 speeds

Linus made a video about that not too long ago so check it out.
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post #36 of 76
Definitely agree with what Shaded War said. Plus at 4K its more GPU than CPU so splashing out on just a new card might be the way to go.

For comparison I've Included a pic of my ageing 1st gen X58 which is 7 years old now running 3D Mark with a 1080Ti stock. OC'ed it will hit 9.1K!

Food for thought...


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post #37 of 76
That really might be the way to go, then.

Also, M.2 is just great in general. If it's not something you find worth it, don't get it... I've always heard they're better in nearly every use case. Might not be an option for Z68/Z77 motherboards, however.
post #38 of 76
I looked a little closer at your sig rig and I wouldn't even bother changing anything out besides the SSD and GPU.

These incremental CPU IPC upgrades are a complete waste money so just enjoy the fact you bought something 5 years ago and it's still basically the best gaming CPU. It's a really bad deal when you won't see more than 5FPS gain for $1000. A 1080ti will more than double your FPS so that's the biggest thing you could do.


If I was upgrading that rig today and ordering parts right now, this is what I would buy.

GTX 1080ti from either Asus Strix, MSI Gaming X, Zotac AMP, or one of the EVGA with dual fan heatsink. My preference in that order, but get whichever is in stock for a decent price. LINK

Asus PG279Q IPS LINK or Acer XB271HU LINK. Both use the same panel for the same price so just buy whichever brand / appearance you prefer.

Samsung 500GB SSD. I can install 7+ massive games and still not worry about room when a 120GB can only manage 1-2 big games. LINK


Total cost just over $1700 for the current best 16:9 monitor and GPU with a decent SSD upgrade that I'm sure you would appreciate.
Edited by Shaded War - 4/25/17 at 7:31am
post #39 of 76
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I looked a little closer at your sig rig and I wouldn't even bother changing anything out besides the SSD and GPU.

These incremental CPU IPC upgrades are a complete waste money so just enjoy the fact you bought something 5 years ago and it's still basically the best gaming CPU. It's a really bad deal when you won't see more than 5FPS gain for $1000. A 1080ti will more than double your FPS so that's the biggest thing you could do.


If I was upgrading that rig today and ordering parts right now, this is what I would buy.

GTX 1080ti from either Asus Strix, MSI Gaming X, Zotac AMP, or one of the EVGA with dual fan heatsink. My preference in that order, but get whichever is in stock for a decent price. LINK

Asus PG279Q IPS LINK or Acer XB271HU LINK. Both use the same panel for the same price so just buy whichever brand / appearance you prefer.

Samsung 500GB SSD. I can install 7+ massive games and still not worry about room when a 120GB can only manage 1-2 big games. LINK


Total cost just over $1700 for the current best 16:9 monitor and GPU with a decent SSD upgrade that I'm sure you would appreciate.

Really like this line of thinking.
post #40 of 76
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Sorry if I'm stuck in eternal confusion over here... but why are you buying a 1700 for streaming, gaming, and movie watching? You could accomplish all that with an i3... absolutely with an i5. Again, the more cash you have left over is yours for whatever you could possibly want- be it games, movies, money for subbing on twitch... a nice 4K panel for watching movies... but it's your choice, and I'm sure this is something you've thought about. Just letting you know that a 1700 is way over the top for what you mentioned, whether you knew that or didn't. Obviously can't go wrong with too much power, though wink.gif
In my time on these forums, I've seen a lot of bad advice, but this probably takes the cake. If you plan on streaming 720p or higher gameplay with a high(er) bit rate, no i3 on the market will do the job better than any Ryzen CPU currently available. Neither would any i5. I wouldn't recommend anything less than an i7 from Intel or an R5 1600 from AMD for streaming. Older 6- and 8-core AMD CPUs are also better for streaming than i3s and i5s. The extra cores/threads mean more than clock speed in that specific task.
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Please get an M.2 SSD, they're fabulous. I'm waiting to get one soon and it means near-instant boot speeds.
I'm guessing you don't know the difference between NVMe and AHCI SSDs since you offer a blanket recommendation of a M.2 SSD. There's virtually no difference in performance when comparing a SATA SSD to its M.2 counterpart. The difference is literally negligible. However, a NVMe SSD does offer a performance boost over AHCI. The vast majority of users wouldn't really benefit from NVMe. In order to actually benefit from the extra speed, you need to be performing drive-intensive tasks and save time from simply having a faster drive. The average user isn't doing that.
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